I was replying to a comment specifically about sport.
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Replying to @theAliceRoberts @colwight and
Your reply was about more than sport. You seem to agree that sex segregation is necessary in sports. You explicitly say that sports rules (segregation) should not extend further in society. That society includes rape crisis centres that can legally discriminate against males.
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Replying to @FondOfBeetles @theAliceRoberts and
No it means we shouldn't necessarily use the same criteria for categorisation in sport and the rest of society.
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Replying to @KatyMontgomerie @FondOfBeetles and
In most of society we seek to ignore categories, treat people the same whatever race, sex, age etc...but there are situations where it is legitimate to discriminate based on age or sex etc. The issue is not the whole 'rest of society' but the specific situations where sex matters
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Replying to @MForstater @FondOfBeetles and
That's what I meant. Someone being allegedly better at gymnastics because of their trans status is not an argument for their exclusion from legal protections against sexual assault
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Replying to @KatyMontgomerie @FondOfBeetles and
Sexual assault is a crime. Not sure what that has got to do single and separate sex services, which is the issue in question in relation why Alice thinks sports is a 'special case' whereas other situations of female only services should be overridden by identity?
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Replying to @MForstater @FondOfBeetles and
The purpose of sex segregation in society is to reduce sexism and sexual violence. I'm sure some people see it as maintaining tradition too but that's bs. The purpose of it in sport is not for those reasons. Therefore using the same justifications for both doesn't make sense
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Replying to @KatyMontgomerie @FondOfBeetles and
No that is not the purpose. The legitimate reasons for providing single and separate sex services are set out in the Equality Act (Schedule 3, S. 26 & 27). Its nothing to do with 'reducing sexism'.pic.twitter.com/At6Hj2WeBo
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Replying to @MForstater @KatyMontgomerie and
It recognises that in situations involving sharing intimate spaces & physical contact with strangers it can be reasonable for people to object to the presence of a person of the opposite sex.
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Replying to @MForstater @FondOfBeetles and
Loads of the actual law is built on tradition and prejudice, I'm not arguing that. I'm saying that the good reason for sex segregation is to reduce sexism and sexual violence. I know you think the law supports "I just don't like trans women", I truly hope it doesn't as that'd...
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Nope. Single & separate sex services have to be justified objectively according to *these* reasons. Not other reasons. And the law doesn't say sex segregation is because people w one particular protected characteristic (being female) 'don't like' people w another PC (being male)
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Replying to @MForstater @KatyMontgomerie and
I mean, it does. "Object" means "to express one's disapproval of or disagreement with something" so yeah, it does say "don't like". And trans women are female.
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