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    1. iain campbell‏ @iaincampbell07 Sep 9
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      Replying to @robertnpalmer

      I think the word “is” bestows the status of fact to what, in the end, remains academic research? The study is very short. It also doesn’t seem to identify the possible tax lost, commensurate with “dodging”. @MForstater @DanNeidle

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    2. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Sep 9
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      Replying to @iaincampbell07 @robertnpalmer @DanNeidle

      The study doesn't identity tax dodging . It identifies that FDI intermediated through SPVs results in weirdness in the bilateral FDI statistics. To call this "phantom FDI" and tax dodging is sexing up the findings I think!

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    3. Dan Neidle‏ @DanNeidle Sep 9
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      Replying to @MForstater @iaincampbell07 @robertnpalmer

      It seems to catch holding companies, regardless of whether there is profit shifting. But I can’t find the paper so cannot confirm this.

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    4. Paddy Carter‏ @CarterPaddy Sep 9
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      Replying to @DanNeidle @MForstater and

      how hard would it be to 1. write down a list of non-tax reasons for using a holdco 2. sift through a random sample of them to see how many look like those, or look like they exist to reduce taxes? (the answer could be: very hard. Too hard to unpick)

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    5. Heather Self‏ @hselftax Sep 9
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      Replying to @CarterPaddy @DanNeidle and

      So far, I’ve only read the summary (will try to read the rest) but it is a sensible statistical review of issues in measuring FDI. It does NOT say that 1/3 of FDI is tax-dodging. This page is useful:pic.twitter.com/N5kRGKj2dO

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    6. Heather Self‏ @hselftax Sep 9
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      Replying to @hselftax @CarterPaddy and

      Happy to discuss in more detail @robertnpalmer . I think the main point you are missing is that if a US MNC wants to expand into Europe, it will use a HoldCo for commercial reasons, and will site that HoldCo in NL or Lux in order not to add tax cost. 2/n

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    7. Heather Self‏ @hselftax Sep 9
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      Replying to @hselftax @CarterPaddy and

      In my view it’s not “tax dodging” to put a commercial function (HoldCo) in a location which has a good treaty network and a participation exemption. But it does distort FDI stats, which the paper (sensibly) seeks to address. 3/3

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    8. Heather Self‏ @hselftax Sep 9
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      Replying to @hselftax @CarterPaddy and

      Oh and PS - if an SPV is being used for “tax-dodging” it will almost certainly be ineffective to reduce wht rates, under local (source) rules, relevant DTA or the MLI. And CbCR means source, intermediate and residence state can find the info.

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    9. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Sep 9
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      Replying to @hselftax @CarterPaddy and

      Attaching the language of "empty shell companies" & "phantoms" to ordinary, compliant holdcos....I worry it undermines understanding both of what is going on here, and of actual dodgy dealings where chains of shell cos with 'phantom' owners are a real thing

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    10. Paddy Carter‏ @CarterPaddy Sep 9
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      Replying to @MForstater @hselftax and

      I'm guessing from an advocacy perspective, what matters is that this set "FDI via holdcos" contains all the egregious tax avoidance they want to see ended. The fact this set also includes innocuous stuff is regarded as unimportant, and possibly as providing sustenance to bad OFCs

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      Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Sep 9
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      Replying to @CarterPaddy @hselftax and

      Its IMF (& FT) though! Continually pointing at a whole lot of stuff that is productive, compliant investment & shouting "tax dodging" at it I don't think is good enough. The research looks serious. The findings serious, if a bit nerdy. Is sexing it up strategic or opportunistic?

      3:41 AM - 9 Sep 2019
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        1. Paddy Carter‏ @CarterPaddy Sep 9
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          Replying to @MForstater @hselftax and

          yes, I'd expect @FT writers and editors to know that there are other reasons for using HoldCos than tax avoidance, disappointing they didn't find a more accurate way of describing the IMF's results.

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