If someone transitions from male to female then they can apply to be listed as female on their passport so I'm not sure the law agrees with you. I'm not justifying women being forced out of sport - you have yet to supply me with any info that that is actually happening.
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Replying to @Claire_Bradley0 @JolyonMaugham
There r criteria they need 2 meet 2 b able 2 change their passport & PHYSICALLY they are still men. There is plenty of evidence of women’s athletics records being stolen by men, women losing medals because of men. This male rugby player has taken the place of a woman in the team
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Replying to @KarenJones66 @JolyonMaugham
If they have had top and bottom surgery then physically they have the attributes of women. Considering that trans people are very much a minority and trans sports people even rarer I find it hard to believe that this is the wholesale problem you are suggesting.
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1) there is no requirement for surgery 2) 'top' and 'bottom' surgery does not change strength, bone density, speed. A male body with breast implants and plastic surgery to the genitals is still a male body. Read
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Replying to @MForstater @KarenJones66 and
I've read it and its interesting. Whilst a male body that has transitioned to female has generally higher levels of muscle mass than someone born female, is the same true when you are comparing a female athlete with a trans athlete? Many female rugby players are tall and strong.
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Replying to @Claire_Bradley0 @MForstater and
If someone is a trans rugby player playing the women's game, and is six foot and powerful, but is playing other women who are as powerful, then its less of an issue. If there is a clear differential that is more of a problem, as that's unfair competition.
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Replying to @Claire_Bradley0 @MForstater and
In the UK, (1) there is case law which says size/weight/strength differentials must be considered (2) insurance is an issue (3) women have a right to know one of the team they play against was born male (see 1 and 2) and a right to refuse to consent.
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Replying to @Claire_Bradley0 @MForstater and
I don’t know how well versed in this whole issue you are. You know what would happen to a women who refused to give consent to play with or against a TW.
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Replying to @FondOfBeetles @MForstater and
Nothing I imagine. Sports people in my experience are mentally pretty tough and well able to make their own choices and decisions. They tend to have the attitude "push me love and I'll push you back". That is one of the reasons they play sport. Shrinking violets they are not.
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Replying to @Claire_Bradley0 @FondOfBeetles and
So wouldn't it be more inclusive to say that all sports are open to people of *any* gender identity, but remain segregated by sex? Gender identity has no relevance to fairness or safety in sport
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Do you think Kelly should be excluded from playing in men's sports? Should men be allowed to refuse to play with gender nonconforming males? That would seem transphobic to me.
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