Maya Forstater

...hope you don't. You'd inform staff or security or whoever because she was making the space unsafe for other users. If you see someone you think is a trans woman being inappropriate, same thing. However, if you see someone who is using the space as intended, not...

...being inappropriate, or doing anything criminal, you'd let them continue, right? That's how it should be, but with the gender policing of terfs, cis women who are gnc are being challenged about using women's spaces. Which is ridiculous, no? Someone using a facility...

...as intended does not require others policing them. Whether trans, cis, intersex, non-binary etc, if someone is not acting dodgy, leave them be. It is really not that hard. This goes for all "single sex" spaces that the public have access to.

The issue is that there are some people who believe that a person w a male body can be a woman & some people who don't. In a democratic society we can all get along courteously w people we don't share fundamental beliefs w & no one should not be discriminated for their beliefs.

Unless their beliefs are actively harmful against people, such as homophobia or transphobia or racism or sexism. You know. The thing this conversation is about?

Your beliefs - that a man magically becomes a woman if he identifies as such and that he should therefore be entitled to enter female only spaces - are actively harming women. It is sexist to demand women give up our rights to placate males.

Thats not my belief. My belief is that trans women, ie women who were always women/girls but were mistaken for men/boys, are a real thing that really exists. And are included in women's rights because of the whole "woman" part.

Thats fine you have a right to hold that belief. Just as some people believe that souls are real & others don't. It's not 'phobic' not to share someone's belief.