Maya Forstater on Twitter: "Just trying to understand what makes a bad apple..... Those girls were right to feel alarmed because of JYs age but not JY's sex? (In fact even noticing JY's sex makes them prejudiced?).… https://t.co/WI46mifGHU"

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Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Jul 23

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Maya Forstater Retweeted JHJ - #IStandWithMaya

We'll have to agree to disagree about that (re s28, not 29 my bad) until there are cases, but certainly EHRC withdrew its unequivocal statement suggesting having a GRC always entitles someone to access single sex services for opposite biological sexhttps://twitter.com/OnlyObjectivity/status/1049340702507913216?s=19 …

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JHJ - #IStandWithMaya @OnlyObjectivity

I've just this minute been told by the EHRC that the Equality Act guidance has been changed, and the new version was published on Friday as promised to Fair Play for Women. http://www.equalityhumanrights.com/sites/default/files/what-equality-law-means-for-your-business-2018.pdf …

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Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Jul 23

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My Q though is... Yaniv is a "bad " but say a male person w gender ID woman demands that women who give massages only to women also attend to their naked body: u see as quite a different situation? Not a bad but totally normal & any discomfort the woman feels is bigotry?

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Gilbert Stan‏ @notCursedE Jul 23

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"demands"? If you offer a service for women but refuse one woman because she's trans, or gay or black or whatever - how is this not textbook discrimination?

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Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Jul 23

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Yes that's pretty much the same argument Yaniv made in the tribunal "they offer Brazilian waxing (i.e. for women ), I'm a woman why should I be excluded just because I have a penis and testes"

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Gilbert Stan‏ @notCursedE Jul 23

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Because they specifically offer waxes for vaginas. She doesn't have one, so she doesn't get service. If she had one, and they refused? She'd have every right to cry discrimination.

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Gilbert Stan‏ @notCursedE Jul 23

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And although I'd support the fact it would be discrimination in that case. I wouldn't support Yaniv all the same. She's shown her self to be abusive, predatory and extremely creepy - on that basis alone - literally anyone can deny her services in intimate areas.

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Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Jul 23

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What is it she's done that's creepy? As far as she's concerned she's just chatted with girls about girl stuff, taken a few selfies in the ladies loo. Why do you think it's creepy for a woman to do that?

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Gilbert Stan‏ @notCursedE Jul 23

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I think it's creepy for any grown ass adult to ask teenagers about or ask about teenagers periods and whether they should help them insert tampons. If you did this I would equally ask for you to be under the same caution Jessica should be under.

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Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Jul 23

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So a male identifying as a girl, at age 15 say, to try to involve themself in the normal chats that girls have between themselves about their periods that's fine ? Not creepy at all ? And if the girls feel uncomfortable they are being bigots?

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Gilbert Stan‏ @notCursedE Jul 23

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What kinda happy gas are you on where you constantly imagine these random ass scenarios? No, not creepy - many girls who do not have periods do this. Including cis girls. No the other girls aren't bigots for being creeped out by this? Unless there's a prejudice somewhere?

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Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Jul 23

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Just trying to understand what makes a bad apple..... Those girls were right to feel alarmed because of JYs age but not JY's sex? (In fact even noticing JY's sex makes them prejudiced?).

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1. Gilbert Stan‏ @notCursedE Jul 23
  
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  Neither the age or the sex is the issue? What's so hard to understand that anyone who seems obsessed with children's periods to the point where they'll even suggest helping those kids out tampons in - is fucking weird. Like, why is this not an easy concept to get?
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