Why do self identified "gender critical" feminists insist on ignoring trans men? It's almost like there's an agenda going on that they don't want to talk about.
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Replying to @AislingTax
Maybe it's a Q of bandwidth. I don't read much from anyone on trans men. (Or I don't read enough?) But also some key issues don't seem so relevant to men - sports participation, no history of "men only" spaces like shelters, no pattern of female violence against men?
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Replying to @iaincampbell07
Trans men ought to have the worst of all possible worlds. Anyone with any sense of fair play...
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Replying to @AislingTax @iaincampbell07
I think they prefer to ignore trans men as they are evidence that trans people are genuine and not, as they make out, mainly predatory men pretending.
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Mary. This is not what people are arguing. People can genuinely have gender dysphoria & genuinely have a feeling of gender identity. But this does not change their sex. So the question is should these genuine feelings override fairness & dignity of others in single sex spaces?
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Replying to @MForstater @MaryCosg and
Separately yes people are *also* concerned that policies that allow males to have access to vulnerable women based on 'self identification' will be abused. For example this is evidence given to parliament by the President of the British Assoc of Gender Identity Specialistspic.twitter.com/rVGslrIOn1
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Replying to @MForstater @MaryCosg and
I don't see gender critical women ignoring women who identify as trans. There is particular concern about the massive rise in young, same-sex attracted women experiencing dysphoria and becoming convinced that they need major body modifications to be happy.
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Replying to @MForstater @MaryCosg and
Children, women & men experiencing gender dysphoria & body dysmorphia need careful clinical support for their mental health, w caution over medical intervention, not to be politicised as evidence that *other* people are genuine or that women should not be allowed boundaries
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So you want people treated for a medical condition which the medical profession don't agree they suffer from, to make you feel more comfortable? I think people should be treated by their Drs, not by public polling. But maybe it's an Irish thing!
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I think people experiencing mental distress & feeling they were born in the wrong body should have counselling... yes, accessed via their Drs yes. People who just like wearing clothes associated with the opposite sex, but not feeling distressed, no. People can wear what they like
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And no i don't think people should be treated by Drs to make others more comfortable. People should have healthcare for their needs & welfare. I do think people proposing major elective surgery & hormones, sterilising themselves justifies caution by Drs based on Do No Harm
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That is a call for their Drs. As an Irish woman I find attempts to weaponise medical treatment, and even the views of some practitioners, incredibly worrying. Medical treatment is between a person and their Dr, no one else.
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Replying to @AislingTax @MForstater and
The people, or their families, who consented to lobotomies trusted their doctors. Drs thought that cutting away a chunk of their brain would relieve depression or other mental health issues. How many did they operate on and leave as virtual vegetables before it was stopped?
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