@AdamWagner1 Policy on Kenwood Ladies Pond is set by City of London Corporation @CityCorpHeath not Camden Council and the policy is that anyone who tells lifeguards they self identify as female - including people without a GRC - are being admitted now.
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It is not excluding on a case by case basis. It's including trans women at any stage of transition and any men who care to try. You turn up. You tell the lifeguard you identify as female. You're in.
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Replying to @AudreySuffolk @EmmaDixon_EU
Thanks - do you have the policy for the pool?
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Replying to @AdamWagner1 @EmmaDixon_EU
Doesnt appear to be a written, specific policy. Just de facto
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Replying to @AudreySuffolk @EmmaDixon_EU
What is the right answer? 1. No trans women allowed into women's only pool 2. Some trans women if they can show a birth certificate or evidence they are transitioning? 3. Anyone who says they are transitioning/have transitioned? 4. Anyone who says they are a woman?
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Replying to @AdamWagner1 @EmmaDixon_EU
Given there are three ponds, including a mixed one I would regard the womens and mens ponds as having same sex exemptions (to allow those who would only swim with their own sex to do so)
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My understanding is that the law only requires 1. Cis women and 2. Trans women with GRC to be allowed into the Ladies Pond. What I've suggested is slightly more generous- anyone with female ID - as there are hard cases and majority of trans people don't currently have a GRC.
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Isn't it that the law requires trans women (defined more broadly than your (2) because of s.7) to be included unless the single sex exemption under schedule 7 para 26 is applied in which case the exclusion has to be proportionate?pic.twitter.com/qutmIieRmN
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No I think you are starting in the wrong place here. The single/seperate sex exemption s26 is what allows you to have a womens (& mens) pond in the first place. You dont invoke the exemption to exclude transwomen but to exclude men.pic.twitter.com/eiYqmum3Dy
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S.7 defines the PC of gender reassignment, but it doesn't change people's sex. So as the EHRC (belatedly) made clear transwomen without a GRC are legally men, & would be covered by the exemption in the same way as other men (who may also have other PCs) https://www.equalityhumanrights.com/en/our-work/news/our-statement-sex-and-gender-reassignment-legal-protections-and-language …
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Then the question is should they also invoke Schedule 3 para 28 to exclude transwomen w a GRC who are legally women. Is it proportionate. I would say yes. Because the reason for the single sex exemption in the first place is to allow bodily privacy.
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