Maya Forstater on Twitter: "Did you just mean the existing right (in the UK) against harassment based on perception of sex, or do you have in mind something else?… https://t.co/KimxDAZElK"

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Alessandra Asteriti‏ @AlessandraAster Apr 15

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Replying to @EDRinLondon @TaraVanHo @Alonso_GD

I am not lecturing you and frankly done, I am for equality, non discrimination and maintaining women rights as women rights and trans rights as trans rights. You think trans rights and women rights are the same thing. I disagree. Cheers

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Elvira Dominguez-Red‏ @EDRinLondon Apr 15

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I haven't said this but it is always impossible to argue anything with those who have the 'truth', speak on behalf of the oppressed attacking a minority that represents a danger to their rights. Nothing new here. It is very popular though. I give you that.

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Alessandra Asteriti‏ @AlessandraAster Apr 15

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Actually my position is the one that has caused people to lose their jobs and receive death threats. I have been DMed by legal academics calling me brave. It is chanting TWAW that is popular woke position now. I am not for reducing trans rights. They need *trans rights*.

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Alessandra Asteriti‏ @AlessandraAster Apr 15

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Replying to @AlessandraAster @EDRinLondon and

Also, your position totally forgets trans men, who need trans rights too, but, in your opinion, not women rights, because, although biologically female, they are men. Since they are men, does it mean they do not get any specific rights, or are they only ones who get trans rights?

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Elvira Dominguez-Red‏ @EDRinLondon Apr 15

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Have we moved to trans men now? There are many areas of law and policy that need thinking to accommodate trans rights. I don't have your simple solutions antagonising women's rights (some linked to gender roles & not biology) with trans women.

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Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Apr 15

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Replying to @EDRinLondon @AlessandraAster and

How on earth can we have rights linked to gender roles? Which roles? Act ladylike, wear makeup, be submissive and you get certain rights, but speak up, fail to comply with the social dress code and you lose them? How does this work?

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Elvira Dominguez-Red‏ @EDRinLondon Apr 15

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Replying to @MForstater @AlessandraAster and

Why do you need to ridicule others to make a point? Some women's rights are based on our biology. Others try to reverse structural inequalities that are the product of a system where we have been assigned a particular position in society with (at times) defined roles.

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Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Apr 15

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Replying to @EDRinLondon @AlessandraAster and

I am not trying to ridicule, I am trying to understand. You say there are some *womens* rights that should be extended to male people on the basis of performing gendered roles (and presumably denied to female people who don't). I am and asking which roles you are thinking of?

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Elvira Dominguez-Red‏ @EDRinLondon Apr 15

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I'm saying that (despite your shock horror) trans people exist and they're discriminated everywhere in the world. They are not only big white trans who looks like a stereotype man. We need to engage in a conversation that is not about attacking a marginalised group.

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Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Apr 15

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Replying to @EDRinLondon

I'm not arguing against concern for discrimination people face because of being trans. You made a specific proposal that there are some aspects of women's rights that should be made contingent on performing gender roles - can you see the problem w this? Or expand and explain?

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Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Apr 15

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Replying to @MForstater @EDRinLondon

Did you just mean the existing right (in the UK) against harassment based on perception of sex, or do you have in mind something else?

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