Most women if they put on, say, jeans and a plain boxy t-shirt, without make up or hair styling are immediately recognisable as women. Its not "gendered presentation" that is being read, but they are still subject to gendered expectations.
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Why don't you try cutting your hair short & dressing in neutral clothing & see if in a queue one morning or getting on the bus you ever get misread & called Sir. Many women tell me that non compliance with femininity means ppl are often unsure of them or pronouns.
Thanks. I've had long hair & short hair and I generally live in jeans and a hoodie when not at work. I used to get called "sonny" etc as a preteen, but never since puberty. Conversely my two teenage sons have similar hair to me, also live in jeans & hoodie, never get called miss
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I've had very short hair on and off over the years - even going out with no make-up, jeans, neutral top, gym shoes I was never, or at most vanishingly rarely and fleetingly, not read as a woman.
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I'm sitting in the pub right now and a couple have walked in wearing matching technical cycling gear, w jackets, helmets, snoods, shades. They are average height & dressed identically. I cannot see their hair. Even out of the corner of my eye I can see its a man and a woman...
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Yup, I once had to be got out of somewhere incognito (long story). It was in an Asian country where I stand out so had to be covered from head to toe. Long convo of whether to go male or female, until my friend and I realised that whatever I wore we couldn't disguise my sex
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