Maya Forstater

In general I think you are setting the boundary of acceptable risk & harm to women far too high - - there must be a general crisis in shelters & transwomen winning *all* the sporting medals or there is no problem from removing single sex spaces/sports and making them mixed sex?

I don't agree. I think that with respect to all the issues and risks women face, and in particular in those two contexts, this is close to non existent. I cannot find data to support this level of concern. Only anecdotes.

The root of the problem is that you (as do others) keep thinking abt trans women as inherently men and therefore attributing them 'male' characteristics such as being a bigger threat of sexual assault to women than, say, regular other women or officers in correctional facilities

I refuse this premise. I don't think it's based on data and science. Concerns of ppl in these situations should be heard, of course, IF this happens to be a bigger concern than others, which I doubt. I think we probably have to agree to disagree.

Lucia - you asked me for "actual instances" . So I gave you some actual instances. You said they were anecdotes, not data.

So I offer some data (I know it's imperfect) and you call it "bogus" without saying why. Yes I know the FPFW article is not a "study", but it is data from the DoJ. In what way is that bogus?

You say that the root of the problem is that I (and others) keep thinking abt trans women as inherently 'male'. Well yes. By definition to be a transwoman you have to be male.

You say we must assume that this sub- population of males do not have "male characteristics" eg in relation to sport and risk to women, but you have not offered any data for this. (its a big claim. It requires evidence)