Prison authorities have a responsibility to protect all these vulnerable people. It is not obvious thar women must be used as human shields for males w gender dysphoria 11/
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Replying to @MForstater @lucyferr85
Many, many women in prison have life histories of being the victims of violence, sexual abuse and coercion by men. Forcing those vulnerable women to share with males undermines *their* mental wellbeing. 12/
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Replying to @MForstater @lucyferr85
In sports, as you say "the science is out" on the effects of hormone therapy. In other words there is no evidence that simply lowering testosterone for a short time erases all the other advantages of having a male body. 13/
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Replying to @MForstater @lucyferr85
I do not accept that lesbian and gay men's sexual orientation towards people of the same *sex* is a "bias" that needs to be examined (or indeed heterosexual's orientation). It is not an "issue" for gay men that they are not sexually attracted to females! (15/)
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Replying to @MForstater @lucyferr85
In general I think you are setting the boundary of acceptable risk & harm to women far too high - - there must be a general crisis in shelters & transwomen winning *all* the sporting medals or there is no problem from removing single sex spaces/sports and making them mixed sex?
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Replying to @MForstater
I don't agree. I think that with respect to all the issues and risks women face, and in particular in those two contexts, this is close to non existent. I cannot find data to support this level of concern. Only anecdotes.
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Replying to @lucyferr85 @MForstater
The root of the problem is that you (as do others) keep thinking abt trans women as inherently men and therefore attributing them 'male' characteristics such as being a bigger threat of sexual assault to women than, say, regular other women or officers in correctional facilities
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Replying to @lucyferr85 @MForstater
I refuse this premise. I don't think it's based on data and science. Concerns of ppl in these situations should be heard, of course, IF this happens to be a bigger concern than others, which I doubt. I think we probably have to agree to disagree.
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Replying to @lucyferr85
I would think the requirement for evidence would go the other way. We have single *sex* facilities and sports. Where is the evidence that people whose sex is male but who feel a subjective identity of woman have similar sporting capacities or risks to women as female people?
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Replying to @MForstater @lucyferr85
There are few studies, but those I've seen suggest MTF people (and this is a study of people undergoing surgery, not just self ID) have offending rates similar to male not female cohorts in comparisonhttps://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885 …
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Some more data: 60 out of 125 known transgender prisoners in England and Wales are sex offenders. This is much, much, much higher than the proportion of sex offenders in the female prison population.https://fairplayforwomen.com/transgender-prisoners/ …
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