Maya Forstater

Also, your discussion conveniently leaves out trans men: should they be competing with women? Even if they are under T therapy? Should we allow Buck Angel to compete in a women sports ? I don't think so. (8/N)

On the other issues you mention: I agree ppl should not be forced or shamed into liking someone, especially ppl who are already discriminated. BUT examining our own bias has never hurt anyone. So, there's that. (And the same issue is found in the gay community abt trans men) (10

Abt shelters and the rest: again, there is a generalization of a couple of specific instances I'm sure there are ways to make all women feel safe and protect all women without being discriminatory. Does not seem to be a general crisis. (11/N)

I won't be replying to the 'we are afraid to say things' part bc that does not deserve an an answer. I just want to point out that these types of arguments are the same made over and over against ANY type of 'other' (should I bring back the arguments against black atheltes?)

That said, I do agree that the specificity of female biology ties to reproduction should not be erased when we talk abt discrimination against women. They are very much part of it. I just don't but that we need to erase trans women to do that. (END)

Hi Lucia - - good on you for reading and thinking aloud. There should be more of this! (1/N)

Personally I reject the label 'cis' which implies that women (and men) who don't try to live as a member of the opposite sex are accepting the cage of gender stereotypes which society puts on us. 2/