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Business and sustainable development. Accountability. Tax. Feminist test case. Media: Tom Gardner at Slater & Gordon 0207 657 1690 press@slatergordon.co.uk

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    1. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Mar 28
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      Replying to @MForstater @CarterPaddy @TaxJusticeNet

      TJN statement says " We unreservedly reject any linking of gender to a “biological” sex binary", but you think there's a 99% overlap... It can't be both surely?

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    2. Paddy Carter‏ @CarterPaddy Mar 28
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      if you delink gender from biology, people who self-identify as women are overwhelmingly the same people as those who are biologically female. This just amounts to observing that only a small percentage of the population is trans.

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    3. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Mar 28
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      If you delink 'gender' from biology what is it you think people are self identifying as? Is it something in your head/personality ('I think like a woman') or is it just a polite word for sex?

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    4. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Mar 28
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      Can you define it? You are asking to replace a perfectly good definable, objectively, observable thing - sex - with something subjective and undefined.

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    5. Paddy Carter‏ @CarterPaddy Mar 28
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      no I'm not, I have expressed no view (here) about the merits of option A or B

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    6. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Mar 28
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      I know Paddy 😎 I just mean it's "your Option" as in you are putting it on the table, so I'd like you to define it. Is it a thing (in which case what kind of thing) or is it a language game, for the purpose of an assumed greater good?

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    7. Paddy Carter‏ @CarterPaddy Mar 28
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      I don't claim to know, I just meant to refer to whatever it is that the authors of that TJN statement have in mind.

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    8. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Mar 28
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      Replying to @CarterPaddy @TaxJusticeNet

      Well if the proposal for Option B is not coherent enough for us two to work out what it is maybe we are giving it too much credit for being a coherent idea?

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    9. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Mar 28
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      As I said Option A has got a lot going for it in terms of a coherent definition, observable characteristics, explanatory power....

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    10. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Mar 28
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      Replying to @MForstater @CarterPaddy @TaxJusticeNet

      It's a bit like Illicit Financial Flows definition Paddy 😉 The question is does option B put together two sets of people "some women" + "some not women" and call the new category "women" (why? for what end?)...

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      Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Mar 28
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      ... Or does it put these two categories of people together because they both share a common characteristic "women" which all women (whether bio male or bio female) have, but eg non binary females don't have (is there any proof of this thing? How do I know I've got it?)

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        2. Paddy Carter‏ @CarterPaddy Mar 28
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          If we're using a definition you're a woman if you really feel like a woman, whatever that means to you, does the question "how do I know if I've got it?" make sense? You tell me, do you feel like a woman? I guess: yes.

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        3. Paddy Carter‏ @CarterPaddy Mar 28
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          I can't pretend to understand what it's like to be born in a male body and really feel like that's the wrong gender but I believe it's a real thing that should be respected not shat on on grounds of your preferences regarding analytical categories.

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