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Business and sustainable development. Accountability. Tax. Feminist test case. Media: Tom Gardner at Slater & Gordon 0207 657 1690 press@slatergordon.co.uk

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    1. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Mar 8
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      Except I don't think they really believe that.

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    2. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Mar 8
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      In our work we look at populations segmented by *sex* to study outcomes in education, employment, poverty, health, etc… and to look at violence against women, the burden of household work & etc...

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    3. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Mar 8
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      None of this is based on people having a personality at the ‘feminine end of the spectrum’. It is based on the way societies treat people who are male or female. Where women are treated as second class citizens its not something they can opt out of by dressing differently.

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    4. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Mar 8
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      Of course there can be different definitions for things. Being a woman is a social identity based on other people reading you as female, and being a woman is also a function of being female: chromosomes, gametes, genitalia

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    5. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Mar 8
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      We can use both definitions. Usually they align. When they don’t its polite and kind to treat people the way they want to be treated, even when they don’t ‘pass’ as the sex they’d like to be seen as.

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    6. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Mar 8
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      But here is the thing. Sometimes the interests of the female people (who may get pregnant, who tend to be physically less powerful, who face sex discrimination & violence from men) diverge from the interests of people who are male but would like to be treated as women socially.

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    7. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Mar 8
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      When these interests diverge (such as in questions over who has access to single sex spaces where women are vulnerable, who can compete in women’s sports), we have to be able to weigh the different interests up as a society and talk about it.

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    8. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Mar 8
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      Telling women that they must be kind when their interests are being traded off in favour of male people is something we should learn to notice and stop doing.

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    9. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Mar 8
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      Right now people who make that case for talking about this calmly and carefully are called names — bigot, TERF, nazi.

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    10. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Mar 8
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      And so maybe you haven’t engaged with their arguments. The debate is toxic. Cognitive dissonance is uncomfortable. There are only so many hours in a day. And if you are a bloke (or a ‘cis-man’ as they say) you probably feel like you best keep out of it.

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      Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Mar 8
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      Or maybe you agree that its a problem that issue is not being talked about more seriously carefully. But you are fearful of being called names, or worse. I get that. I’ve lost my job at @cgdev over this and i’m not going to berate anyone for not taking risks they can’t afford to

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        2. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Mar 8
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          But please do one thing for me on this #internationalwomensday - sit with the cognitive dissonance a bit longer. Try to turn on your 'system 2 thinking' modules and turn off the 'system 1'.

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        3. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Mar 8
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          If you think there should be more space for clear, calm constructive debate over how women's rights (as a sex!) and the rights of transgender people can be protected do something to make that happen in whatever way you can.

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        2. Ryan Briggs‏ @ryancbriggs Mar 8
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          Replying to @MForstater @CGDev

          You seriously lost your @CGDev job over this?

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        3. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Mar 8
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          Replying to @ryancbriggs @CGDev

          Yup.

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        2. Kelly Holmes‏Verified account @damekellyholmes Mar 10
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          Sorry to hear you lost you job. That was a terrible move. Let woman have their voice on this subject!

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        3. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Mar 10
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          Replying to @damekellyholmes @CGDev

          Thank you Dame Kelly Holmes! 💜 And for all the brilliant sports women standing up for fairness and for women to have a voice

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        2. Mike Truman‏ @MATruman Mar 9
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          WHAT?! Maya, so sorry to hear this, I hadn’t realised.

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        3. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Mar 9
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          Replying to @MATruman @CGDev

          Thanks Mike xxx

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        2. Jonathan Said‏ @JonathanSaid1 Mar 9
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          Very sorry you lost your job over setting out a coherent argument. Quite incredible & shouldn’t happen. Wish you better things!

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        3. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Mar 9
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          Replying to @JonathanSaid1 @CGDev

          Thanks Jonathan.

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