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    1. Rasmus Corlin Christensen‏ @phdskat 4 Dec 2018
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      To wrap this up: I was honestly taken aback by the consistency. Couldn’t understand how these people could all support such a specific tax policy principle. I’ve even wondered out loud about this: https://twitter.com/phdskat/status/928017245376274432?s=21 … The paper at the top of this thread helps us make sense.

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      I’m not quite sure how this idea has spread so wide. Pretty interesting. I mean, there are decent arguments for it but also some against
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    2. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater 6 Dec 2018
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      But is it the right question? I mean asking a shopper in Nike store 'should Nike pay tax here' .... is basically should shops pay tax....so answer is 'of course shops should pay tax, all shops pay tax so why shouldn't Nike'?

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    3. Rasmus Corlin Christensen‏ @phdskat 6 Dec 2018
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      Is what the right question? I never said what the journalist had asked... I can’t recall precisely the exchanges. Would have to go find the tape. But my recollection is exactly that they were not ‘fed’ the sales tax idea - which is why I was surprised at the consistency.

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    4. Rasmus Corlin Christensen‏ @phdskat 6 Dec 2018
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      Broader point of course is that someone else (the paper linked at the top) in fact did do a specific study on people’s attitudes to sales-based taxes

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    5. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater 7 Dec 2018
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      Right, but "everyone pays sales tax" attitude in the paper seems to be something different. "Everyone" I think means all consumers. Interesting though in light of US way of adding sales tax visibly (and annoyingly) at the till (which I thought was designed for unpopularity..?)

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    6. Rasmus Corlin Christensen‏ @phdskat 7 Dec 2018
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      Something different from what? Everyone is a consumer, no? I don't really follow your point..

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    7. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater 7 Dec 2018
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      Different from question of DBCFT (perhaps not so much for economists thinking about incidence). Q in the paper seems to be about attitudes to sales tax vs federal income tax on individuals, rather than location of CIT in intl value chains

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    8. Rasmus Corlin Christensen‏ @phdskat 7 Dec 2018
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      Okay, yes, I'm with you. That is true. The paper does not speak of sales-based *corporate* tax. That was my addition/suggestion: I said I think it might help us understand salience of sales-based corporate tax ideas. That's arguable, of course

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    9. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater 7 Dec 2018
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      Yes I see what you mean. I just wonder whether ppls answer to "should X iconic foreign brand pay tax here" would be different to ppls answer standing outside a local company w international sales "should Y company pay tax elsewhere and not here? I wonder if would be consistent

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    10. Rasmus Corlin Christensen‏ @phdskat 7 Dec 2018
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      Probably not consistent, no. I thought this particular instance was relevant exactly because I didn't recall the shoppers had been 'fed' the point by being asked "should Nike pay tax here?". My impression was they had offered some sales-based ideas on their own.

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      Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater 7 Dec 2018
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      Right, my thought was standing *in Nike store* primes answer (not on purpose). ie source based tax on retailers where store is, so fairness A=Nike stores shld pay tax like others. Might not be pref for destination basis. Ppl buying Nikes in different store might give different A

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        2. Rasmus Corlin Christensen‏ @phdskat 7 Dec 2018
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          Hmm. It's an interesting question. Do people lean more sales-based in the case of more customer-facing businesses? Could be - though I still think people generally just 'get'/'like' the sales-based concept

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        3. Rasmus Corlin Christensen‏ @phdskat 11 Dec 2018
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          .@oddfjeldstad and the gang have a new WP out that might be of interest in the context of this discussion: https://brage.bibsys.no/xmlui/bitstream/handle/11250/2576216/Most%20people%20are%20not%20economists%3A%20Citizen%20preferences%20for%20corporate%20taxation?sequence=1 … It finds Tanzanians prefer lower taxes on companies that have more local employees

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