It's all written there in the report....
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Replying to @taxwatch
The point is simple: if I’m a US company making $100 profit by selling to a UK customer, then your report assumes I should pay tax on the $100 in the UK. But that’s wrong.
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Replying to @DanNeidle @taxwatch
The report raises the valid question of whether reported U.K. profits are too low. It does so by using a simplified form of formulary apportionment, based on sales. As
@DanNeidle says, that’s not how the system works at present. 1/n1 reply 2 retweets 4 likes -
It’s absolutely valid to use a benchmark such as average profit margins compared to sales to raise questions. But remember that HMRC already has this data, and more, and can (and does) ask those questions already. 2/n
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So IMO there are 3 possibilities: 1. HMRC are not doing their job properly, & are collecting less than they should. Possible, but unlikely to be anywhere near £1bn pa IMO. 3/n
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2. The estimate of tax “dodged” is overstated and the true figure is less than £1bn. Quite likely, in my view. International TP is complex & big companies generally put a lot of effort into complying with existing rules. 4/n
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3. The international rules don’t work well, and need updating. Absolutely, but it won’t be easy. Eg see my recent article in
@tax_journal https://www.taxjournal.com/articles/self-s-assessment-what-s-wrong-digital-user-tax-24102018 … 5/n1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes -
Replying to @hselftax @DanNeidle and
So where does that leave us? Yes, tech MNCs probably exploit current rules, and HMRC could collect some more tax. But IMO not as much as £1bn pa. 6/n
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Finally, the report keeps referring to £5bn. But that’s over 5 years; the annual figure is £1bn or about 0.14% of total U.K. tax revenues (and about 2% of CT). That’s not to say we should ignore MNCs and CT - but I think more focus on other areas would be more productive. 7/7
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Various threads on the go. Clear that we still have no common currency on methodologies, or even analyses of the nature of problems. And that it seems relatively easy to generate numbers that look big but which have no wider agreement.
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Maya Forstater Retweeted Paul Lewis
I thought aim of @taxwatch was to "name & shame tax avoiders abusing the system"
Journalists & tax experts working together... https://twitter.com/paullewismoney/status/1001027409943162880?s=19 … More misleading back-of-envelope calculation to get big
numbers is disappointing
Maya Forstater added,
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