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    1. International Centre for Tax and Development‏ @ICTDTax 17 Oct 2018
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      For all those at #PAC2018 this debate is important: Should multinational #tax avoidance be included in the definition of illicit financial flows? @SolPicciotto argues "yes" in this blog https://bit.ly/2qJynP7  and @MForstater argues "no" https://bit.ly/2rAaBq3  #IFFs #tax #Africapic.twitter.com/yuJaEvEHZS

      TJNA, Center for Global Development, Global Tax Justice and 5 others
      1. TJNA @TaxJusticeAfric

      2. Center for Global Development @CGDev

      3. Global Tax Justice @GA4TJ

      4. IDS UK @IDS_UK

      5. Jason Rosario Braganza @JasonBraganza1

      6. ALVIN MOSIOMA @alvinmosioma

      7. Nelly Busingye @nb_mugisha

      8. Grace R Namugambe @Groxxie

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    2. Martin Ronceray‏ @MartinRonceray 17 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @ICTDTax @SolPicciotto and

      Very interesting discussion - true enough, different job descriptions beg for different IFF definitions... Let me chip in with this chart, a recap' on implications of definitional choices. Full explanation and pictures here: https://tinyurl.com/ybht8w7j  @ECDPM @Lustarnde #PAC2018pic.twitter.com/KuJTIFWcJk

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    3. Martin Ronceray‏ @MartinRonceray 18 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @MartinRonceray @ICTDTax and

      Erratum: UNECAS's @IFF_Africa has consistently adopted a *normative* definition and the only paper that justified our including it in the 'legalistic' column is this one, in the trail of the Mbeki report:(https://www.uneca.org/sites/default/files/PublicationFiles/illicit_financial_flows_why_africa_needs.pdf …) New version to be uploaded shortly, same place

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    4. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater 18 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @MartinRonceray @ICTDTax and

      If only someone would define the norm! If the first definition is funds illegally earned, transferred, or utilised, the second involves funds legally earned, transferred and utilised...

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    5. Martin Ronceray‏ @MartinRonceray 18 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @MForstater @ICTDTax and

      I think "illegal" requires some characterisation too. Whose law prevails? Who arbitrates? Isnt "soft" intl law / agreements closer to norms? So: pending an unlikely global tax treaty/organisation, isn't definition #1 comparably problematic, on top of missing major flows?

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    6. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater 19 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @MartinRonceray @ICTDTax and

      Of course a one sentence definition is not going to capture all of the legal questions, but it says "OR" so its pretty expansive. If a financial flow is connected to illegal activity anywhere along the chain of earning, transfer or use it can be illicit.

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    7. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater 19 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @MForstater @MartinRonceray and

      The second definition (by definition) captures flows of money that are legally earned, declared to the revenue authority, legally transferred and legally used in every jurisdiction they touch and puts them in the same bucket as illegal stuff. Can you see that is anti-democratic?

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    8. Martin Ronceray‏ @MartinRonceray 19 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @MForstater @ICTDTax and

      Am no lawyer but...I don't think there's a clear-cut legal/illegal benchmark to use. Take e.g. N. Korea law; law consistently not applied tho in force; contradictory case law; soft law widely disregarded (intl agreement)... Would all these suffice to qualify IFF? @michal_ovadek

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    9. Michal Ovadek‏ @michal_ovadek 19 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @MartinRonceray @MForstater and

      In terms of international law approaches, you have the option of laying down a binding definition to be followed by all parties or the option of devising conflict laws, ie what happens when legal orders collide (what you see in international private law essentially)

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    10. Michal Ovadek‏ @michal_ovadek 19 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @michal_ovadek @MartinRonceray and

      The question of who decides then on what satisfies the definition and how should it be interpreted (or the conflict rule) is separate (at least for analytical purposes). Will there be a central authority and/or a court or not?

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      Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater 19 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @michal_ovadek @MartinRonceray and

      No. this is a descriptive, analytic, policy concept -- not trying to make a new legally binding definition but to point to a problem that can be commonly understood - dirty 💰 crossing borders. Role of financial centres in 🏙️ &🏝️ in enabling crime and corruption elsewhere.

      5:41 AM - 19 Oct 2018
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        1. iain campbell‏ @iaincampbell07 19 Oct 2018
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          Replying to @MForstater @michal_ovadek and

          Don't think we are in the area of adding rules/definitions of IFF into treaties. IFF potentially useful concept for assessing/estimating damage to countries (eg lost revenues, poor/misaligned investments, corrosion of LE/public bodies), and so helping design and enforcement.

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