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Business and sustainable development. Accountability. Tax. Feminist test case. Media: Tom Gardner at Slater & Gordon 0207 657 1690 press@slatergordon.co.uk

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    1. Rachael Meager‏ @economeager 1 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @economeager @MForstater and

      the pernicious idea that trans women are not "real women" is thought to contribute both to this pattern and other aspects of transmisogyny: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmisogyny …

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    2. Rachael Meager‏ @economeager 1 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @economeager @MForstater and

      holding onto a biologically-grounded notion of womanhood has little practical benefit in day to day life, and is regressive in that it ignores the psychological and social aspects of gender while harming a vulnerable community in the process.

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    3. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater 1 Oct 2018
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      Rachel - I think if we didn't have a word for adult human females we'd have to invent one. But let's say you are right and there is no information content in that word, its not a real thing. Let's get rid of it. Let's pretend the word never existed....

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    4. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater 1 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @MForstater @economeager and

      ... But then you tell me there's a new word "woman". I've never heard it before. What does it mean? How do I know if I am one? Or if someone else is? What is the definition?

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    5. Rachael Meager‏ @economeager 1 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @MForstater @_alice_evans and

      right, so the question is, why would this word be invented out of nothing? what purpose would it serve? in the thought experiment you are describing, there is no need for it, and i'd be very happy that way.

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    6. Rachael Meager‏ @economeager 1 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @economeager @MForstater and

      however, right now, the concept of womanhood does exist. it has psychological importance for certain individuals (cis and trans). it has social and economic implications (typically but not always via misogyny). it has medical implications (for both cis and trans persons).

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    7. Arthur Baker‏ @AW_Baker 1 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @economeager @MForstater and

      There isn’t an binary biological category of being black either. But lots of people identify as black.

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    8. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater 1 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @AW_Baker @economeager and

      Arthur. Ethnic differences began to evolve 60,000 yrs ago and ppl put labels put on them much more recently. These are surface differences. There were males and females *before* there were humans. Millions of years. Not everything is binary. But sex is.

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    9. Arthur Baker‏ @AW_Baker 1 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @MForstater @economeager and

      I’m not saying that race and gender are identical, I’m just saying that categories work without being underpinned by biology. When I say ‘I met a woman’, you know I mean that I met someone who presented to me as a woman, not ‘I looked at her genitals’.

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    10. Alice Evans‏ @_alice_evans 1 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @AW_Baker @MForstater and

      Absolutely, perceptions -> discrimination. So guess what happens when orchestras adopt blind auditions...? http://gap.hks.harvard.edu/orchestrating-impartiality-impact-%E2%80%9Cblind%E2%80%9D-auditions-female-musicians …pic.twitter.com/5SBhCjJj96

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      Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater 2 Oct 2018
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      Alice ....this is what i mean on definitions. This study tells us something about how a group of ppl are perceived. That group is adult human females (they weren't selected based on gender identity). We want to learn from it, so why dont we need a name for that group of ppl?

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