Maya Forstater

the pernicious idea that trans women are not "real women" is thought to contribute both to this pattern and other aspects of transmisogyny: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmisogyny …

holding onto a biologically-grounded notion of womanhood has little practical benefit in day to day life, and is regressive in that it ignores the psychological and social aspects of gender while harming a vulnerable community in the process.

Rachel - I think if we didn't have a word for adult human females we'd have to invent one. But let's say you are right and there is no information content in that word, its not a real thing. Let's get rid of it. Let's pretend the word never existed....

... But then you tell me there's a new word "woman". I've never heard it before. What does it mean? How do I know if I am one? Or if someone else is? What is the definition?

right, so the question is, why would this word be invented out of nothing? what purpose would it serve? in the thought experiment you are describing, there is no need for it, and i'd be very happy that way.

however, right now, the concept of womanhood does exist. it has psychological importance for certain individuals (cis and trans). it has social and economic implications (typically but not always via misogyny). it has medical implications (for both cis and trans persons).

So when we think about defining womanhood - especially for the purposes of social policy to correct against discrimination - we must consider these roles and ask what we hope to achieve with the category, within our current context.

One thing we might hope for is to destroy the category socially. Then having breasts is just a trait like being tall or short or young or old. Another thing we might hope to do is to employ the history of the social category in order to fight against systems of social oppression