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    1. Rachael Meager‏ @economeager 1 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @economeager @MForstater and

      that is: in this case as in almost every case, definitions, unlike facts, are not objective truths about the universes but constructions that exist only to be used by human beings. so we must ask, what is the definition of "woman" FOR?

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    2. Rachael Meager‏ @economeager 1 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @economeager @MForstater and

      that being the case, we can construct it considering the pros and cons of various options, as we do in many other cases. i believe you are not considering the harmful consequences that your biologically-based definition has for trans folks.

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    3. Rachael Meager‏ @economeager 1 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @economeager @MForstater and

      Currently, trans women face specific discrimination *as women*. They face misogyny, magnified tenfold. For example, trans women face more domestic violence than trans men do AND more than cis women do http://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/wp-content/uploads/Intimate-Partner-Violence-and-Sexual-Abuse-among-LGBT-People.pdf …

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    4. Rachael Meager‏ @economeager 1 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @economeager @MForstater and

      the pernicious idea that trans women are not "real women" is thought to contribute both to this pattern and other aspects of transmisogyny: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmisogyny …

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    5. Rachael Meager‏ @economeager 1 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @economeager @MForstater and

      holding onto a biologically-grounded notion of womanhood has little practical benefit in day to day life, and is regressive in that it ignores the psychological and social aspects of gender while harming a vulnerable community in the process.

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    6. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater 1 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @economeager @_alice_evans and

      Rachel - I think if we didn't have a word for adult human females we'd have to invent one. But let's say you are right and there is no information content in that word, its not a real thing. Let's get rid of it. Let's pretend the word never existed....

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    7. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater 1 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @MForstater @economeager and

      ... But then you tell me there's a new word "woman". I've never heard it before. What does it mean? How do I know if I am one? Or if someone else is? What is the definition?

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    8. Alice Evans‏ @_alice_evans 1 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @MForstater @economeager and

      Why are definitions so important? Why do we need to put people on pens/ categories? Why not just empiricallly work out what makes people happy?

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    9. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater 1 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @_alice_evans @economeager and

      Alice I really don't how you can take this position as a researcher. If everything is meaningless and there are no useful categories or useful buckets how do you study anything?

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    10. Alice Evans‏ @_alice_evans 1 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @MForstater @economeager and

      I don’t shoehorn complexity into tight little stilettos that don’t quite fit. Instead of making up categories and stuffing the world into them, I study the world as it is. I reckon that makes me a better researcher but hey ho...

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      Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater 1 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @_alice_evans @economeager and

      So when you use the word women what do you mean?

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        2. Alice Evans‏ @_alice_evans 1 Oct 2018
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          Replying to @MForstater @economeager and

          I don’t start with definitions, I start with understanding how to increase happiness. And at the moment, that means championing inclusion, diversity, equality, however people label themselves.

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        3. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater 1 Oct 2018
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          Replying to @_alice_evans @economeager and

          So if only an otherwise undefined group of people around the world just stopped labelling themselves "women" they'd stop being paid less, being sexually harassed in public places and being controlled by relatives?🙄

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