I dont identify as a woman.
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Replying to @MForstater @SarahEOV and
sure, let's consider ME then, who does. Would it make sense to you that in that case, I might still identify as a woman?
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Replying to @economeager @SarahEOV and
There is no way of any other person knowing or judging what you identify as. That's up to you. It has nothing to do with your sex. If you are born female (a girl) you grow into an adult woman. There is no accident, medical event or operation that can change that.
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Replying to @MForstater @SarahEOV and
ok so what defines being born female?
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Replying to @economeager @SarahEOV and
Being of the sex that can bear offspring and produce eggs, which can be fertilized by male gametes. Before you ask: This does mean that women who are infertile or develop w atypical/missing parts are not female.
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Replying to @_alice_evans @economeager and
Same reason a baby born with one arm is *not* not a human!
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Replying to @MForstater @_alice_evans and
well if the definition of human was "has two arms", it sure wouldn't fit the category definition, so this is not a good rebuttal.
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Replying to @economeager @_alice_evans and
But that's not the defn of human! I can't believe that this thread which started w ppl worrying whether a transwoman wld be offended if someone suggests a woman should join a panel is now talking about whether people w birth defects are human! In real life this is not a question!
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Replying to @MForstater @_alice_evans and
yeah, that's not the definition of human, which is why your example does not work. we are not proposing that definition of human. You are proposing the capacity to produce eggs to be the definition of woman. You have not explained how this can fail to exclude infertile women.
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No I'm not. I'm saying being *of the sex* that produces eggs. Think of typical female anatomy. Ovaries not working? Still female. No ovaries? Still female. No uterus? Still female. Etc.. None of these situations are part male
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Replying to @MForstater @_alice_evans and
so are you saying that "typical female anatomy" defines womanhood?
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Replying to @economeager @MForstater and
it sounds like you are saying you believe the definition of womanhood is "having, at birth, some physical anatomical structure that is sufficiently similar to the physical structure of a body that can produce eggs." is that right?
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