I meant deceitful as in masquerading as female primarily in order to access spaces reserved for women (such as a male rapist identifying as female, to access a female prison and cause harm).
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Bunce does not 'masquerade as female' he is a man who likes to express himself part of the week by wearing a dress. I have no problem with men wearing dresses, but we don't need to confuse acting in a stereotypically feminine manner with being a woman! https://www.fnlondon.com/articles/mistranslated-i-split-my-time-as-pippa-and-philip-20171002 …pic.twitter.com/TMy8SMshct
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Replying to @MForstater @_alice_evans and
As he said "it's synonymous to how a lady may choose to wear a dress, heels and makeup one day yet trousers, flats and no makeup another" I am flummoxed that people think that wearing a dress, heels and makeup is what qualifies someone as woman!
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Replying to @MForstater @_alice_evans and
They don't think it qualifies them as a woman... that's why they identify as gender fluid not trans woman, right? (which is why it was indeed weird for them to be put on the women in business list!)
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Replying to @Claudie_L @_alice_evans and
Yes. & weird he felt entitled to accept the award, instead of saying "sorry there has been a mistake I am a man who challenges gender norms" & that CreditSuisse didn't either. Its like they were putting the entitlement of powerful men ahead of treating women fairly. whodathunk?
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Replying to @MForstater @Claudie_L and
its the second year running he's been on it. There's another man on the list Nicci Take (her biz is doing presentations as a "corporate drag queen"). I think
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Replying to @MForstater @_alice_evans and
Yeah, I think I agree with you - Pip's inclusion on the list struck me as insensitive to both women & trans people, specially when CS has a big problem w/gender pay gap. I reckon it's separate issue than the manels point tho? I feel uncomfortable conflating the two.
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Replying to @Claudie_L @_alice_evans and
I don't think it was just insensitive. I think it was misogynist and insulting!.... Imagine
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Replying to @MForstater @Claudie_L and
But yes i agree the manels is somewhat different (i.e. if the scenario was w a male person whose identifies as a woman). Even then i think it wld be legit for a guy to say I took a pledge not to be on all male panels, so i'll stand down & suggest they find a female person as well
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Replying to @MForstater @_alice_evans and
I... think that would be really horrible of them. I've literally never seen a trans person anywhere on a development panel ever. I would welcome it. As a woman, this is not the hill I would want a manel pledger to die on in my name...
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Oh I see what you mean. I didn't think the point of the pledge was to be horrible to the other panelists, but to encourage the organisers to find female experts to bring on to make it more inclusive.
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