Maya Forstater

Personally, I doubt a man would do this deceitfully, in order to gain access to such opportunities. I also doubt trans woman taking such opportunities is a threat to women's voice/ access (because trans people are a tiny tiny minority).

I don't think there is any way to tell if someone's feelings of being a woman are 'deceitful' or not. I don't know what it 'feels like to be a woman' - are my feeling womanly enough? Who is to know? I think it is regressive to define womanhood by dress code, behaviour or feelings

I meant deceitful as in masquerading as female primarily in order to access spaces reserved for women (such as a male rapist identifying as female, to access a female prison and cause harm).

As he said "it's synonymous to how a lady may choose to wear a dress, heels and makeup one day yet trousers, flats and no makeup another" I am flummoxed that people think that wearing a dress, heels and makeup is what qualifies someone as woman!

They don't think it qualifies them as a woman... that's why they identify as gender fluid not trans woman, right? (which is why it was indeed weird for them to be put on the women in business list!)

Yes. & weird he felt entitled to accept the award, instead of saying "sorry there has been a mistake I am a man who challenges gender norms" & that CreditSuisse didn't either. Its like they were putting the entitlement of powerful men ahead of treating women fairly. whodathunk?

its the second year running he's been on it. There's another man on the list Nicci Take (her biz is doing presentations as a "corporate drag queen"). I think @ft are insulting women with this, instead of using their position to champion diversity by putting them on the mens lists