Maya Forstater

I wouldn't want to speak for Maya, but I sense her concern is that if trans-women can self-identify as women they may take opportunities reserved for biological women (eg. political reservations, panel spots).

Personally, I doubt a man would do this deceitfully, in order to gain access to such opportunities. I also doubt trans woman taking such opportunities is a threat to women's voice/ access (because trans people are a tiny tiny minority).

I don't think there is any way to tell if someone's feelings of being a woman are 'deceitful' or not. I don't know what it 'feels like to be a woman' - are my feeling womanly enough? Who is to know? I think it is regressive to define womanhood by dress code, behaviour or feelings

I meant deceitful as in masquerading as female primarily in order to access spaces reserved for women (such as a male rapist identifying as female, to access a female prison and cause harm).

As he said "it's synonymous to how a lady may choose to wear a dress, heels and makeup one day yet trousers, flats and no makeup another" I am flummoxed that people think that wearing a dress, heels and makeup is what qualifies someone as woman!

They don't think it qualifies them as a woman... that's why they identify as gender fluid not trans woman, right? (which is why it was indeed weird for them to be put on the women in business list!)

Yes. & weird he felt entitled to accept the award, instead of saying "sorry there has been a mistake I am a man who challenges gender norms" & that CreditSuisse didn't either. Its like they were putting the entitlement of powerful men ahead of treating women fairly. whodathunk?