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Business and sustainable development. Accountability. Tax. Feminist test case. Media: Tom Gardner at Slater & Gordon 0207 657 1690 press@slatergordon.co.uk

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    1. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater 25 Sep 2018
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      I've got a Q for my male twitter friends who have pledged not to appear on all male panels - if u were invited on a panel w Pip Bunce - one of FT's top 100 female champions of women in biz & another guy would u say yes or call the organisers & say sorry i don't do #manels?pic.twitter.com/MUVq0lZ7Ov

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    2. Matt Collin‏ @aidthoughts 25 Sep 2018
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      If Bunce feels in whole or in part a woman, then he would count as one. But I feel like one could make reasoned arguments either way, and that's ok. Seems to me the point of the pledge is to be effective in the 99% of cases where there is not room for reasoned argument.

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    3. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater 25 Sep 2018
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      Thanks for being brave and taking the plunge with an answer Matt! As you know I disagree!

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    4. iain campbell‏ @iaincampbell07 25 Sep 2018
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      This is Q at one end of a spectrum, when poss general rules break down in what might be called singularities. What of people with no binary gender? Or self identifying as female, transgender or undertaking treatment? From info you provide doubt cross dressing by itself qualifies.

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    5. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater 25 Sep 2018
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      Personally I think it is straightforward. Women are adult human females. It is not about gender identity, or gender expression or medical treatment. I dont know what the 'feeling of being a woman' is. If 'woman' is defined as someone who has this feeling I don't fit the criteria!

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    6. Paddy Carter‏ @CarterPaddy 25 Sep 2018
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      Replying to @jonathanglennie @MForstater and

      without having given it much thought, I'd probably take the opposing view. My reasoning would be that any position one might take on this issue can be objected to from some quarter, and I'd rather err on side of trans women=women in context where e.g. safety not an issue.

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    7. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater 25 Sep 2018
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      I thought the #manels thing is about men w influence making a personal commitment to support women by stepping aside if needs be. If a man who has steps down from this (imaginary) panel lineup & is replaced by a woman (so panel is Bunce + bloke + woman) why is that objectionable?

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    8. Paddy Carter‏ @CarterPaddy 25 Sep 2018
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      it wouldn't be. I just meant that if rule is don't appear on a manel, without reference to Bunce in particular, because I don't know the detail, I'd have been inclined to say it's not a manel if a trans woman is on it.

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      Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater 25 Sep 2018
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      Replying to @CarterPaddy @jonathanglennie and

      Well i guess it depends on why someone took the pledge. If it is because they think women are underrepresented in public life/their profession & they want to do something I don't see why they would err against stepping down & letting a(nother) woman onto the panel

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        2. Paddy Carter‏ @CarterPaddy 25 Sep 2018
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          Perhaps because they don't wish to send the message "you are not a woman" to the trans woman panelist.

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        3. Paddy Carter‏ @CarterPaddy 25 Sep 2018
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          for the sake of argument, suppose you believe that trans women are not really women, you might still care about the feelings of the trans woman in question who might be hurt to discover men are refusing invitations citing the no manels pledge.

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