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Maya, are you saying that trans women are not women? I’m a bit confused...
Yes I think that male people are not women. I dont think being a woman/female is a matter of identity or womanly feelings. It is biology. People of either sex should not be constrained (or discriminated against) if they dont conform to traditional gender expectations
this is really disappointing. trans women are women. In fact trans women face much more discrimination than cis women do, and we should be elevating their voices. (PS "biology" is as complex as economics and there is no use trying to apply high school bio to the real world.)
Many groups of people face more discrimination than women as a broad group. Elevating their voices does not require that we call all of those people 'women'. Smashing stereotypes is great. Erasing the category of female people is not.
Whoa. Honestly, this is a larger conversation for off twitter but in my view, eliminating manels is a way to promote inclusivity in voices. Trans men and women have been historically marginalized, including their voices. That’s what we’re trying to do. Be inclusive.
I think the #manels thing is about men with influence making a personal commitment to support women by stepping aside if needs be. If a man who has made the pledge steps down from this (imaginary) panel & is replaced by a woman it wld then be Bunce + guy + woman ->more inclusive
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