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Business and sustainable development. Accountability. Tax. Feminist test case. Media: Tom Gardner at Slater & Gordon 0207 657 1690 press@slatergordon.co.uk

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    1. Dan Neidle‏ @DanNeidle 28 Jun 2018
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      Replying to @DanNeidle @alexcobham and

      You then define the difference as profit shifting. But “real economic activity” is not how existing tax systems work. You’re not measuring profit shifting at all.

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    2. George Turner‏Verified account @georgenturner 28 Jun 2018
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      Replying to @DanNeidle @alexcobham and

      As the entire purpose of the BEPS project was to change the law, is it not a pointless exercise to only define BEPS in terms of how the law currently operates? Such an approach would entirely defeat the purpose of the BEPS project wouldn't it?

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    3. Dan Neidle‏ @DanNeidle 28 Jun 2018
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      Replying to @georgenturner @alexcobham and

      Of course I accept some of the alignment is down to intentional BEPS. But you cannot assume it all is, when that is just not how current frameworks work.

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    4. Dan Neidle‏ @DanNeidle 28 Jun 2018
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      Replying to @DanNeidle @georgenturner and

      It’s a category error - the misalignment calculations don’t and can’t measure tax avoidance or evasion. They measure the imperfection of the status quo vs an idealised unitary tax system

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    5. Alex Cobham‏ @alexcobham 28 Jun 2018
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      Replying to @DanNeidle @georgenturner and

      You say it's a category error Dan, when it is explicitly identified on the approach that misalignment > shifting.

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    6. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater 28 Jun 2018
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      Replying to @alexcobham @DanNeidle and

      Here 500bn an estimate of misalignment is equated to avoidance.pic.twitter.com/Ni4JJSZd6S

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    7. Alex Cobham‏ @alexcobham 28 Jun 2018
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      Replying to @MForstater @DanNeidle and

      No, the IMF methodology is about BEPS rather than misalignment. (Our BEA study is misalignment.)

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    8. Dan Neidle‏ @DanNeidle 28 Jun 2018
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      Replying to @alexcobham @MForstater and

      To repeat: “Lawfully achieved misalignment”= intentional tax avoidance. In reality misalignment = “natural misalignment” + evasion + avoidance. Where does your piece acknowledge that the first category exists?

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    9. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater 28 Jun 2018
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      Replying to @DanNeidle @alexcobham and

      To be fair, in the Vienna paper it is spelled out. But caveats are quickly discarded. As Alex notes he does not make it clear in his recent briefing. What is the chance that anyone else will make the distinction if the indicator is made the official UN marker for "illicitness"?

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    10. Dan Neidle‏ @DanNeidle 29 Jun 2018
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      Replying to @MForstater @alexcobham and

      Presumably Alex is not proposing that the UN have a marker for "illicitness" which is simply a calculation of the difference between the status quo and a unitary tax system?

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      Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater 29 Jun 2018
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      Replying to @DanNeidle @alexcobham and

      That's the proposal. (with 'real economic activity' as the simple average of share of employee headcount & final sales in each jurisdiction) https://www.unodc.org/documents/data-and-analysis/statistics/IFF/Background_paper_B_Measurement_of_Illicit_Financial_Flows_UNCTAD_web.pdf …pic.twitter.com/U1MvQNph1X

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        2. iain campbell‏ @iaincampbell07 29 Jun 2018
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          Replying to @MForstater @DanNeidle and

          The final sentence then admits the indicator will be at inaccurate. So how big is that and why try to use this artificial benchmark? Is it not like using the policy gap to redefine and remeasure the tax gap.

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        3. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater 29 Jun 2018
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          Replying to @iaincampbell07 @DanNeidle and

          OK so I tried the indicator calculation out on Pearson (since they publish CBCR)pic.twitter.com/BHT6A0yYzI

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        1. Dan Neidle‏ @DanNeidle 29 Jun 2018
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          Replying to @MForstater @alexcobham and

          That is pure nonsense. A policy preference for unitary taxation masquerading as a measure of current tax avoidance.

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        2. Andrew Gambier‏ @nairobiny 29 Jun 2018
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          Replying to @MForstater @DanNeidle and

          This unreferenced claim (my highlighting) seems very strong, especially as the paper doesn't appear to justify the particular formula used, which is different from the CCCTB formulapic.twitter.com/dJ69c6bz1D

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