Maya Forstater

It might be a fun activity for one of your colleagues at CGD to work out the evidence for the placement of everything on the graph. To show evidence for relative placements?

Thinking of Lant's fascinating comparison between the best aid intervention and migration, I wonder if migration deserves an even better place?

Whereas there is far less evidence that corporate accountability for human rights abuses abroad is in our national self interest.

That's why I think it's worth distinguishing between issues/outcomes and tactics. win-win is not an inherent phenomena to be found but a strategy to take. Owen/graph I think says these issues *can* be tackled thru win-win approach...

So say the issue is natural resource governance (incl. human rights of local communities). Then Q is how can UK influence thru aid, trade, investment, diplomacy, standards, extra territorial regln of biz, financial sector etc...? Approach to corp. accountability is one lever..

... Then Q is is trying for win-win a good idea for this issue and what works in practice? If approach to corp accountability is not win win on some level (eg: help to manage risk, level playing field w other cos) then impact might be just to drive UK biz out of difficult places?

Well, what is win-win depends on the context If you have strong public demand for responsible business practices & sustainability, like in the Netherlands, then it makes sense for business to undertake human rights due diligence, so as to avoid risks of being implicated in abuse

If you have a lot of firms already doing this, then legislation helps create a level playing field, so that responsible businesses aren't undercut. Legislation can also benefit consumers - reassuring them that their engagement ring wasn't sourced via child/ forced labour.