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    1. Antipodes Annie  🐑 🇳🇿‏ @lacuchina Apr 28
      Replying to @LyannaSpearwife @LisaHardySF and

      No, what was said that incels are the result of unrequited love and a connection will fix that. But whose responsibility is it to connect with a person who once you've decided you don't want to be with them, you've essentially signed your own death warrant.

      6 replies 3 retweets 191 likes
    2. Lyanna Spearwife‏ @LyannaSpearwife Apr 28
      Replying to @lacuchina @LisaHardySF and

      Personal anecdote: I was married to an abusive man. Complete psychopath, tho' people still don't believe me, because he's charming. I was legally responsible for him, because I married him. I was also a qualified therapist, so: professional pride! Had to end it. Still stalks me.

      1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
    3. Lyanna Spearwife‏ @LyannaSpearwife Apr 28
      Replying to @LyannaSpearwife @lacuchina and

      I've been a Family & Relationships Therapist, & Conflict Resolution Mediator, where the goal is to help people repair relationships. Abuse is never OK. It's something that must be changed, & I wouldn't tell a victim to stay, even if the abuser makes promises of change.

      3 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
    4. Antipodes Annie  🐑 🇳🇿‏ @lacuchina Apr 28
      Replying to @LyannaSpearwife @LisaHardySF and

      I'm sorry that happened (and continues) to happen to you. However the greater issue here is not that people stay in abusive relationships, but that there is an inference that people need to enter relationships with men who are socially inept and inadequate, to "fix" them.

      5 replies 4 retweets 189 likes
    5. Lyanna Spearwife‏ @LyannaSpearwife Apr 28
      Replying to @lacuchina @LisaHardySF and

      I haven't read ANYBODY say that.

      8 replies 0 retweets 23 likes
    6. Antipodes Annie  🐑 🇳🇿‏ @lacuchina Apr 28
      Replying to @LyannaSpearwife @LisaHardySF and

      I direct you back to the first tweet where it was stated that unrequited love was the cause of incels and that a “connection” would fix that. Which of us will be that sacrifice? The one who will most likely end up dead when we fail to “connect” using the incels rules?

      4 replies 1 retweet 109 likes
    7. Lyanna Spearwife‏ @LyannaSpearwife Apr 28
      Replying to @lacuchina @LisaHardySF and

      @lacuchina I don't know why you would think I'm suggesting we follow "Incel rules". I'm not. Are you?

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    8. Antipodes Annie  🐑 🇳🇿‏ @lacuchina Apr 28
      Replying to @LyannaSpearwife @LisaHardySF and

      By saying that an incel can be helped by forming connections with them discounts that they have a set of rules they follow and we don’t know those rules until we break them. The rules of social engagement (sexual or otherwise) do not apply with these men, yet we are being told to

      3 replies 0 retweets 30 likes
    9. Lyanna Spearwife‏ @LyannaSpearwife Apr 28
      Replying to @lacuchina @LisaHardySF and

      Annie, it sounds like you're handing your personal power to Incel culture. It sounds like you're saying that you subscribe to their "rules". I suppose that's one way to develop a cohesive society, but it would end up like "A Handmaid's Tale". Could you rephrase, maybe?

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    10. Antipodes Annie  🐑 🇳🇿‏ @lacuchina Apr 28
      Replying to @LyannaSpearwife @LisaHardySF and

      And now you’re being obtuse. I’m saying that the obligation to connect (as from the original post, and subsequent ones) to men like this puts people in danger because their rules are arbitrary. That is why demanding that it is society’s obligation to connect is a dangerous one.

      1 reply 0 retweets 33 likes
      Lyanna Spearwife‏ @LyannaSpearwife Apr 28
      Replying to @lacuchina @LisaHardySF and

      It is society's failure to connect that has caused it. There is a whole field called Social Psychology. "We" as a collective, not as individuals, ARE responsible. "We" have to stop creating people with Incel (& other damaging) beliefs.

      1:28 PM - 28 Apr 2018
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        2. Antipodes Annie  🐑 🇳🇿‏ @lacuchina Apr 28
          Replying to @LyannaSpearwife @LisaHardySF and

          And yet “society” isn’t the one being asked to make connections. Society can’t do that. Individuals have to make connections. And these guys aren’t raping and killing “society”, they’re raping and killing us.

          3 replies 0 retweets 34 likes
        3. Lyanna Spearwife‏ @LyannaSpearwife Apr 28
          Replying to @lacuchina @LisaHardySF and

          3/ I'm starting to wonder if you're trolling me, with the insistent clinging to an idea that I (& now also the original commenter) have repeatedly refuted

          2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
        4. Helen Balcony‏ @CastIronBalcony Apr 28
          Replying to @LyannaSpearwife @lacuchina and

          "Refuted" doesn't mean "contradicted" - a common Australian error. To "refute", you or the original tweeter need to actually articulate what form this "connection" would take and how it would work. Provide detail, that is.

          4 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
        5. Lyanna Spearwife‏ @LyannaSpearwife Apr 28
          Replying to @CastIronBalcony @lacuchina and

          Then you should read all the various comments to find where I have done that :) Unless, of course, someone deleted them for their own convenience?

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        6. Lyanna Spearwife‏ @LyannaSpearwife Apr 28
          Replying to @LyannaSpearwife @CastIronBalcony and

          Also, @lacuchina seems to have led a lot of people into an interpretation of @LisaHardySF 's tweet which Lisa says is NOT what she was saying. Lisa is the expert on her intended meaning, not Annie.

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        2. Helen Balcony‏ @CastIronBalcony Apr 28
          Replying to @LyannaSpearwife @lacuchina and

          and who in "society" are the ones doing the unpaid emotional labour? Women. If anyone has to do the "connecting" here, let it be non-incel men (although incels threaten their lives, too.)

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Lyanna Spearwife‏ @LyannaSpearwife Apr 28
          Replying to @CastIronBalcony @lacuchina and

          So much in that tweet to unpack. I'll just sy: Of course men and women are equally responsible for creating a healthy society.

          0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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