Imagine how tired we are of hearing it.
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By saying that an incel can be helped by forming connections with them discounts that they have a set of rules they follow and we don’t know those rules until we break them. The rules of social engagement (sexual or otherwise) do not apply with these men, yet we are being told to
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Annie, it sounds like you're handing your personal power to Incel culture. It sounds like you're saying that you subscribe to their "rules". I suppose that's one way to develop a cohesive society, but it would end up like "A Handmaid's Tale". Could you rephrase, maybe?
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And now you’re being obtuse. I’m saying that the obligation to connect (as from the original post, and subsequent ones) to men like this puts people in danger because their rules are arbitrary. That is why demanding that it is society’s obligation to connect is a dangerous one.
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It is society's failure to connect that has caused it. There is a whole field called Social Psychology. "We" as a collective, not as individuals, ARE responsible. "We" have to stop creating people with Incel (& other damaging) beliefs.
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And yet “society” isn’t the one being asked to make connections. Society can’t do that. Individuals have to make connections. And these guys aren’t raping and killing “society”, they’re raping and killing us.
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3/ I'm starting to wonder if you're trolling me, with the insistent clinging to an idea that I (& now also the original commenter) have repeatedly refuted
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"Refuted" doesn't mean "contradicted" - a common Australian error. To "refute", you or the original tweeter need to actually articulate what form this "connection" would take and how it would work. Provide detail, that is.
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Then you should read all the various comments to find where I have done that :) Unless, of course, someone deleted them for their own convenience?
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I'm w/Antipodes.A lot of violent men are connected to family.A lot of them are violent to their family. Many mass killings begin at home, with the first murder being of a wife, child, or parent. The idea this asshole's rape & murder spree was "fueled" by a woman's rejection is bs
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Totally agree with you. Domestic violence is often well hidden. Refer to my personal example. My ex has had more relationships than I ever want to think about!
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