The economist is straight up conservative tho
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Their political alignment: Classical liberalism, social liberalism, economic liberalism & radical centrism. I know, it's just from wikipedia, but this is right though!
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Yes? This is like saying social democrats and national socialists are all the same.
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Politicians that got their support of the Economist: Reagan, Thatcher, Bob Dole (conservatives), and Clinton, Tony Blair + Obama (pretty much centrists). Even Ken Livingstone and Harold Wilson (Labour) got their support.
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Thing is: you're not wrong at all. The Economist is kinda conservative, but not straight up - they support more the established politicians from the center. I would call them center right.
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Yes, they are historically center-right, which is conservative in my book. Tldr: nit picking political labels is a fools errand. "Liberal" can be used for everyone from Von Mises to Bernie Sanders.
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Yes, that's true. There's a lot of confusion about the meaning of the word, since it had more and more a different point of view as time passed.
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Which is especially ironic seeing as how they claim to be more interested in social issues than economics.
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To be fair, are we calling The Economist representative of "liberals"
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And this is why I hate liberals! Embarrassing shit like that reminds me of times where they said the same about Hitler or Mussolini - dangerous people, with good ideas. Same game today, but modernized.
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I really wish this would end. If you dig deep enough, you'll find that anyone has at least one good idea. No need to give them a boost. Neoliberals, progressives, etc. shouldn't fight each other
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That depends on what you mean by neoliberal. But that's what im saying - neoliberals *shouldn't* enable the far right.
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The Economist is not a haven of liberals?
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Yes, it is. You have to divest yourself from the American definition of liberalism and apply the traditional, economic definition.
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Jacobin exists in the (North) American political space and Luke (a Canadian?) is engaging in a conversation that exists within that space, using terms as defined here. There is no point in the second meme if it's about free-market absolutists, only if it's about the center left.
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So, yes, the Economist might argue that within their understanding of the term they're "liberals". But that's not how Luke was using the term. What's more, I'm pretty sure you know that.
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I'm scared to look up what they think are the "good ideas"...
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