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I cover tech & politics for @WeDemain. I'm interested in regulating Big Tech and 🇪🇺🇫🇷🇺🇸 policy on digital rights. Majored in internet anthropology @NYUGallatin

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Joined July 2008

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    Luc Lewitanski‏ @LucLewitanski 2 Jul 2018

    Luc Lewitanski Retweeted mike susz

    .@Google killed its Reader in 2013 because RSS as a format gives readers agency, doesn't track browsing to sell ads, and lets the user chose what they want to read. As opposed to algorithmic personalisation which siloes us into increasingly homogenous demographics for advertisershttps://twitter.com/mikesusz/status/1013501238527320066 …

    Luc Lewitanski added,

    mike susz @mikesusz
    Replying to @waxpancake
    i still assert - they fragmented RSS _for a reason_ because it removed their ability to track discovery.
    11:18 AM - 2 Jul 2018
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    63 replies 2,642 retweets 6,750 likes
      1. New conversation
      2. Emory Roane‏ @EmoryRoane 3 Jul 2018
        Replying to @LucLewitanski @Google

        So piggybacking on this serendipitous discussion, RSS reader of choice in 2018?

        9 replies 1 retweet 6 likes
      3. Luc Lewitanski‏ @LucLewitanski 3 Jul 2018
        Replying to @EmoryRoane @Google

        From my experience, @Feedly is stable, well established, and they’ve made an effort towards social integration. @NewsBlur’s interface is my personal favourite

        2 replies 2 retweets 67 likes
      4. Antonio Patti‏ @AntonioPatti 4 Jul 2018
        Replying to @LucLewitanski @EmoryRoane and

        I use the #selfhosted @FreshRSS and after a few months I feel very satisfied. It's free, I use more my #hosting plan and I don't give my #data to none..

        0 replies 1 retweet 4 likes
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      2. Graham Triggs‏ @grahamtriggs 5 Jul 2018
        Replying to @LucLewitanski @Google

        @Lambo If Google had been acting to track user actions, they would have kept Reader because they would be able to track all of your interactions within that site. People going to Feedly, etc. loses that.

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Luc Lewitanski‏ @LucLewitanski 5 Jul 2018
        Replying to @grahamtriggs @Google @Lambo

        Google moved to promote another mode of interaction (they were big on pushing google+ to compete with Facebook at the time), which dovetailed better with their ad targeting model. Nudging news consumption habits across the web by killing reader was part of that.

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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      2. Jeff Wilson‏ @jeffwilsontech 3 Jul 2018
        Replying to @LucLewitanski @Google

        Google and others would love to see all the standard open and license-free protocols that enable and empower people to suffer a similar fate. Thankfully SMTP, RSS, DNS, x509 PKI endure

        1 reply 0 retweets 13 likes
      3. Jake Hamby‏ @jhamby 3 Jul 2018
        Replying to @jeffwilsontech @LucLewitanski @Google

        I remember when Gchat supported XMPP; Google announced they were shutting that protocol down the month before they shut down Google Reader. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Talk …

        2 replies 0 retweets 16 likes
      4. Andrew Marsden 🏳️‍🌈‏ @marsdeat 3 Jul 2018
        Replying to @jhamby @jeffwilsontech and

        When did Facebook kill XMPP? I remember that Google and Facebook basically collaborated to kill off chat aggregators.

        1 reply 1 retweet 10 likes
      5. Andrew Marsden 🏳️‍🌈‏ @marsdeat 3 Jul 2018
        Replying to @marsdeat @jhamby and

        OOF, that Pidgin supported protocols list stings more than I thought it would.pic.twitter.com/V2JW2umWGL

        0 replies 0 retweets 9 likes
      6. End of conversation
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      2. Eric “all new all different” WVGG‏ @Eric_WVGG 3 Jul 2018
        Replying to @LucLewitanski @brentsimmons @Google

        Now hang on just a moment. They could track browsing in Reader far more easily than web; readers were already in an app! They could have introduced an algorithm to stack the articles, and introduced unwanted/un-subscribed/paid content any time.

        2 replies 3 retweets 17 likes
      3. Eric “all new all different” WVGG‏ @Eric_WVGG 3 Jul 2018
        Replying to @Eric_WVGG @LucLewitanski and

        (Not trying to defend Google, the Reader shutdown was a debacle, but I disagree with your assessment of their motivations. IMO it was fear, and not appreciating the position of power they were already in. which PS we should never have given them in the first place)

        1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
      4. Will Pierce‏ @greatistheworld 4 Jul 2018
        Replying to @Eric_WVGG @LucLewitanski and

        Fear of?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Eric “all new all different” WVGG‏ @Eric_WVGG 6 Jul 2018
        Replying to @greatistheworld @LucLewitanski and

        Facebook. They shut down Google Reader in the wake of launching their Facebook clone Google +. They thought they could simply shove Google Reader RSS users over to Google + and make it an instant hit.

        1 reply 1 retweet 4 likes
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      2. 面堂 終太郎‏ @mendoushuutarou 4 Jul 2018
        Replying to @LucLewitanski @Google

        @everydayfoxlife As a former member of the Social Focus Area in Google who worked with the PMs & SWEs that made it, I can tell you the real reason was more boring (& sad): it didn't fit in VicG's "everything @ GOOG must be Google+ed to compete with FB" strategy at the time.

        1 reply 2 retweets 21 likes
      3. 面堂 終太郎‏ @mendoushuutarou 4 Jul 2018
        Replying to @mendoushuutarou @LucLewitanski and

        And remember, Google+ didn't do ads etc at that time (for two reasons: no critical mass to make it worth it and because having no ads differentiated it from FB, giving people a reason to "switch")

        0 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
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      2. savedR‏ @savedR 3 Jul 2018
        Replying to @LucLewitanski @Google

        This is exactly what I don't understand about why they shuttered it-did it just not catch on enough? Google hosted that client, it was web-based, that was the best thing about it, it wasn't tied to a single PC. They could've tracked whatever they wanted

        1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
      3. savedR‏ @savedR 3 Jul 2018
        Replying to @savedR @LucLewitanski @Google

        Shoutout to all the websites that just put the whole article text in the RSS posts along with ads to support it, and no shoutout to the major sites who decided it was better to put the first 10 words to try to force users to give them ad revenue

        1 reply 0 retweets 22 likes
      4. savedR‏ @savedR 3 Jul 2018
        Replying to @savedR @LucLewitanski @Google

        Every time I encountered one of those I unsubscribed, then deliberately didn't visit that actual site again for a long time, so that kind of worked the other way for them in my case, anyway

        1 reply 0 retweets 8 likes
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