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Comms strategist. Blunt ('16). Walker ('12-'15). Rand Paul ('13). Perry ('12) Fiorina ('10); former RNC Online Comms Director; Tory; libertarian; Arsenal fan.

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    Liz Mair‏Verified account @LizMair Jun 16

    This oped is going to generate a lot of negative chatter online today, but let’s be clear: This is the most controversial line of it: “The Byzantine Empire (or, more accurately, the medieval Roman Empire)” WAS THE BYZANTINE EMPIRE ROMAN OR NO?!https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/06/16/anti-blackness-transphobia-are-older-than-we-thought/ …

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      1. Liz Mair‏Verified account @LizMair Jun 16

        Separately, I know women and gay men who are going to take huge issue with the reference to the “passive” participant in sex…

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      2. Tim Andrews‏ @Tim_Andrews Jun 16
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        Yes.

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      3. Ryan Ellis‏ @RyanLEllis Jun 16
        Replying to @Tim_Andrews @LizMair

        Exactly. The seat of the Roman Empire went to Byzantium. That doesn’t make them ethnically Roman, but that isn’t the point.

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      2. Liz Mair‏Verified account @LizMair Jun 16

        My 2 cents on the Roman v Byzantine Empire subject, not as a student of any of this but as someone married to someone with degrees in Ancient History and strong views on it: The Byzantine Empire was a very different animal to the Roman Empire and THEY ARE THEREFORE DIFFERENT.

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      3. Liz Mair‏Verified account @LizMair Jun 16

        My final thought on this oped: It glosses over the fairly obvious but important point that looking down in darker skinned people was often about class. If you worked out in the fields or the desert or wherever, you were probably going to get tan. If you were rich, you were paler.

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      1. NiGeL  🇯🇲 A Stranger With Candy  🍬 🍭‏ @bopskuchi Jun 16
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        Cry Havoc!!

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      1. Ryan Ellis‏ @RyanLEllis Jun 16
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        Of course it was. Do people disagree with that?

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      1. Tyler Ferrari‏ @tylerjferrari Jun 16
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        Can't be a "Roman" empire if your capital isn't Rome...and if Rome isn't even under your control.

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      1. Museum Connoisseur Dougie Hamilton‏ @capspaceweapon Jun 16
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        The pre-Latin Empire state was the Roman Empire. The post latin empire state was not

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      2. Javier Ramirez‏ @jramirez_tx Jun 16
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        If your husband is knowledgeable of this era he would tell you that the idea of “Byzantine” is an anachronism. No one at the time the capital was moved from Rome to Constantinople would have considered themselves anything other than Romanus. They would have looked at you funny...

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      3. Javier Ramirez‏ @jramirez_tx Jun 16
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        ...if you had called them a Byzantine. They would have responded “What did you call me?”. Byzantine was a 16th century nomenclature projected back onto this period by German writers. The fact is that the easterners would have seen themselves just as much as part of the...

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