Nothing's been conceded; you just said you like these people, hence why you're defending them. But there's nothing to like in Charles Murray, Ben Shapiro, Jordan B Peterson, Bari Weiss or Sam Harris. Hence there's no point in having a 'productive conversation'.
I'm basically agnostic about HBD, but I've also read huge amounts of studies both pro-and-con, I'm also paid to do psychology research, and I'm bothered by intellectuals who are more confident than the evidence warrants on HBD. Like just notice that you are likely overconfident.
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You said Murray was ‘right’; now you say you’re ‘basically agnostic’. Which is it?
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I don't think Murray is right about everything? It's possible that society is increasingly segregating by IQ and that IQ differences could be also caused by lack of education, iodine deficiencies, lead poisoning, abuse, malnutrition, pre-natal hormones, not breastfeeding etc.
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