**SSB ULTIMATE BUG REPORT** It’s an important bug with Stage Collision Detection that heavily affects everything that encompasses transitioning into/from an air state, affecting game feel and intuitiveness of movement too, chain of tweets has the details, click thread to read
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Along with the ECB, each character has an origin point, that is the char’s “true” position, it uses the first bone in the hierarchy (TopN for Melee and Brawl, TransN for Smash 4), this work in tandem with the ECB to position the character where it need to be
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As you can see in the example, Sheik is able to do a “No-Impact Landing” on the platform because her ECB is over it, she is also visually over. Even though her origin point is not she is able to land thanks to this clever system
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The game uses the ECB points to tell the game to let Sheik land on the platform, moving her origin point instantly with her. This disparity happens because in air animations, characters are usually farther from the origin point, unlike ground animations
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In this example for Smash 4 ZSS lands early, even though she's visually far away from the ground. This happens because the game is not considering the Environmental Collision Box (ECB) despite the game presumably having system available in perfect working conditionpic.twitter.com/p2kAcRvcjm
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The reason I believe this bug persists in Smash Ultimate is that we can see a very similar example in ZSS's character trailer, as well as all around gameplay videos if you know to look for itpic.twitter.com/IH4UkeECtN
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One of the most emblematic examples in Smash 4 of this not working is the Ryu struggle. Ryu completely goes over the lower Dream Land platform, but is unable to land on it, that is because his ECB is over the platform but his origin point is notpic.twitter.com/0isTz17idM
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Here’s an image of his Jump animation, see how the origin point is way lower? It’s dictated by the small, red colored square, that's the TransN Bonepic.twitter.com/5LE1nhpiHN
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On the third, and last chain of examples, you probably ran into this if you played Ikepic.twitter.com/sTCEVVkXZv
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How do we get them to fix it?
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Spread the information, share the thread, make sure that all the people that care know about this, and maybe we might get it fixed
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