What I liked/appreciated: 1) They replied to every angry comment on the op instead of the usual "delete & act like it never happened" bs 2) Their replies seem like a genuine attempt to acknowledge/address the harm they caused 3) They left the op up to take accountability
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cont. 4) They admit & explicitly state this is a "horrible idea" 5) They donate $ 6) They don't expect forgiveness 7) They don't expect any of these follow up actions to absolve them 8) They vow to better educate themselves on our histories/struggles & to do better going forward
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Some issues I have w/ the op & language used in follow ups: 1) The *entirety* of the op, which deserves an essay on it's own 2) "I mean no offense": intentions don't mean anything when harm is still done
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cont. 3) Referring to the op as "tone-deaf": oversimplification, it actually perpetuates violence on us 4) "Just spitballing ideas": again, this is actually violent & minimizes how damaging this kind of thinking has been to Indigenous people.
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4 cont.) This kind of "spitballing" has led to the bloodshed, deaths, and subjugation of our peoples. Those are just a few issues I have that I can see so far, but pls add any I may have overlooked. All said, I still appreciate their efforts to rectify their harmful actions.
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Some questions for discussion: Q1: What does a "good" apology look like to y'all? I find myself thinking about this more deeply w/i cancel culture discourse and social media amplifying public reckonings of abusers (rightly so imo)...
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cont. ...What makes an apology "satisfying"? Is that even possible? Can actions rectify wrongdoings? Is there a point of no return? Is redemption possible? (lol ok now I'm getting into a whole bucket of thoughts on the influence of Christian hegemony on the idea of redeemability)
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Q2: Are you willing to interact/be involved with people who once held views/"ideas" like the ones in the op? What if you found out a good friend of yours *USED* to believe in ideas like this (e.g. pro-colonial, imperial etc. schools of thought)...would you still FWT?
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cont. If ur answer is no (valid/no judgement bc we decide who we want in r lives)--then that has some DEEP implications How does it change in context? Ex: "I'd never vote for an ex-racist politician" vs "My mom still has colonialist views & I love her & want her in my life"
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Replying to @SoleStatue
I think the apology was acceptable because they left it there to own up, said they donated some money to a PI cause, vowed to educate themselves, and then replied to everyone on there who commented including me. They did not ask for forced forgiveness either. I loved to see it.
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If someone with these views was someone I knew, that's ok, I would just assume they were ignorant (as OP was), then have a deep discussion with them about it. Redemption comes from learning. If they aren't willing or doing it just for forgiveness, I just don't take them seriously
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