You can access your culture without killing? Do you also harvest and pick grains and corn? Some people seem to forget how important farming was for indigenous people. But every time indigenous culture is mentioned it’s somehow imperative to kill animals.
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Replying to @pragueninenine @carolannjaneee
Applying this blanket statement to all indigenous people is not an argument, it's ignorance. Not every indigenous culture harvests grain/corn or has optimal growing conditions for those crops. Part of mine includes fishing because we live off the sea & the land. Pls rethink this.
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True! If you need to fish for survival, okay! But killing animals for /purely/ cultural reasons is still unethical Culture and tradition can never justify murder or other unethical practices (this applies to all contexts and cultures, not just indigenous)
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Been trying to find a way to say this. If you are white, I think it's hard for you to relate. Fishing is also cultural, but not necessarily purely "to survive". We don't NEED to fish for our food, but it's a cultural practice so we supplement our diets with the fish we catch.
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Replying to @Lani4Pasifika @blasphemmi and
Culture DOES justify our fishing practices. We dont need "survival" as justification bc we've been good stewards of our oceans for thousands of years before capitalism. There are indigenous sustainable fishing practices. Maybe you weren't aware of that? Not all killing = "murder"
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Replying to @Lani4Pasifika @blasphemmi and
If you’re Inuit, can you literally survive as a culture without killing animals?
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Replying to @coobieplz @blasphemmi and
Not from what I have heard. I am an indigenous pacific islander though (Chamorro), and we have been fishing for most of the protein in our diets for over 3500 years. We simply don't have enough landmass or grain crops. Also, our breadfruit trees and taro takes years to mature.
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Replying to @Lani4Pasifika @blasphemmi and
Thanks for sharing! I think this is a stronger argument for preserving these practices than a simple appeal to tradition. Unless you’re willing to write off a culture fulfilling its requirements to exist as unethical, this kind of pokes a hole in the vegan argument
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Replying to @coobieplz @blasphemmi and
The nuance that I feel like vegans miss is that you can source meat ethically and unethically. And if a group of humans have been living with a sustainable population of food for that long... You might want to take some pointers from them
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Replying to @coobieplz @blasphemmi and
I also feel that one of the misguided implications of saying "eat meat ONLY to survive" is there are no other options for indigenous peoples out there. Some cultures do have other options some can afford. But THIS option brings us closer to the culture, each other, AND feeds us.
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Thank you for being more open to seeing what other cultures have to say before brandishing the vegan one-size-fits-all sword at us indigenous people for having "a free pass to kill everything". That is an extremely polarizing blanket statement, & plain stupidity to assume.
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