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#DECOLONIZE || She/Her who loves my Islands, who loves the Sea || To Connect, Protect, & Respect our Indigenous Land, Water, & Peoples || #Pasifika Pod Producer

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    1.  💘 acorn auntie  💘‏ @carolannjaneee 17 May 2020

      no, not all leftists should be vegans. a lot of leftists are Indigenous and some of us have strong traditions and cultures that are centered around eating meat. you're not morally superior for being vegan. there are environmentally sustainable ways to consume animals.

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    2. Prague Ninety-Nine‏ @pragueninenine 18 May 2020
      Replying to @carolannjaneee

      Lots of indigenous vegans including myself would contest this idea that our culture means we get a free pass in killing animals. There’s so many ways we can practice traditions while respecting the earth and animals.

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    3.  💘 acorn auntie  💘‏ @carolannjaneee 18 May 2020
      Replying to @pragueninenine

      it's ok that we disagree about this. i don't represent all Indig people single handedly. i don't see it as a "free pass in killing animals" i feel those of us who do hunt and consume animals are practicing our sovereignty and right to access our culture. but that's just me!

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    4. Prague Ninety-Nine‏ @pragueninenine 18 May 2020
      Replying to @carolannjaneee

      You can access your culture without killing? Do you also harvest and pick grains and corn? Some people seem to forget how important farming was for indigenous people. But every time indigenous culture is mentioned it’s somehow imperative to kill animals.

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    5. Lani Mermaid‏ @Lani4Pasifika 18 May 2020
      Replying to @pragueninenine @carolannjaneee

      Applying this blanket statement to all indigenous people is not an argument, it's ignorance. Not every indigenous culture harvests grain/corn or has optimal growing conditions for those crops. Part of mine includes fishing because we live off the sea & the land. Pls rethink this.

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    6. sturdy little cabbage‏ @blasphemmi 19 May 2020
      Replying to @Lani4Pasifika @pragueninenine @carolannjaneee

      True! If you need to fish for survival, okay! But killing animals for /purely/ cultural reasons is still unethical Culture and tradition can never justify murder or other unethical practices (this applies to all contexts and cultures, not just indigenous)

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    7. Lani Mermaid‏ @Lani4Pasifika 19 May 2020
      Replying to @blasphemmi @pragueninenine @carolannjaneee

      Been trying to find a way to say this. If you are white, I think it's hard for you to relate. Fishing is also cultural, but not necessarily purely "to survive". We don't NEED to fish for our food, but it's a cultural practice so we supplement our diets with the fish we catch.

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    8. Lani Mermaid‏ @Lani4Pasifika 19 May 2020
      Replying to @Lani4Pasifika @blasphemmi and

      Culture DOES justify our fishing practices. We dont need "survival" as justification bc we've been good stewards of our oceans for thousands of years before capitalism. There are indigenous sustainable fishing practices. Maybe you weren't aware of that? Not all killing = "murder"

      2 replies 0 retweets 12 likes
    9. coobie  🌇‏ @coobieplz 19 May 2020
      Replying to @Lani4Pasifika @blasphemmi and

      If you’re Inuit, can you literally survive as a culture without killing animals?

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      Lani Mermaid‏ @Lani4Pasifika 19 May 2020
      Replying to @coobieplz @blasphemmi and

      Not from what I have heard. I am an indigenous pacific islander though (Chamorro), and we have been fishing for most of the protein in our diets for over 3500 years. We simply don't have enough landmass or grain crops. Also, our breadfruit trees and taro takes years to mature.

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        2. coobie  🌇‏ @coobieplz 19 May 2020
          Replying to @Lani4Pasifika @blasphemmi and

          Thanks for sharing! I think this is a stronger argument for preserving these practices than a simple appeal to tradition. Unless you’re willing to write off a culture fulfilling its requirements to exist as unethical, this kind of pokes a hole in the vegan argument

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        3. coobie  🌇‏ @coobieplz 19 May 2020
          Replying to @coobieplz @blasphemmi and

          The nuance that I feel like vegans miss is that you can source meat ethically and unethically. And if a group of humans have been living with a sustainable population of food for that long... You might want to take some pointers from them

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