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Politics. Hoyas. YMMV. Views expressed are mine alone, obviously. @TheLobbyShopPod

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    Liam Donovan‏Verified account @LPDonovan 1 Oct 2019

    Liam Donovan Retweeted Rachel Bitecofer  📈 🔭 🍌

    Respectfully I think this is exactly wrong. Convicting your party's President is invariably a bad near term political bet, meaning that those under intense electoral pressure are more handcuffed than most. It's the ones apt to do it on principle that are the actual wild cards.https://twitter.com/RachelBitecofer/status/1179053828970287111 …

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    Rachel Bitecofer  📈 🔭 🍌Verified account @RachelBitecofer
    Replying to @SeanTrende
    Maybe, but the ones to really watch are the one's whose asses are on the line if they get hammered among Indies: Gardner, Collins, McSally, Ernst, Tillis.
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      2. Paul Elliott Johnson‏ @RhetoricPJ 1 Oct 2019
        Replying to @LPDonovan

        i agree with this. but there is a potential long-term convergence between "principle" and "self-interest" that means the first move advantage that might accrue is significant. imagine it as a play to get to write the post-Trump story of the GOP (or to have a chance to)

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      3. Liam Donovan‏Verified account @LPDonovan 1 Oct 2019
        Replying to @RhetoricPJ

        and that's a different point I could see--if she ID'ed the class of 2024 and said watch for these guys making a future political bet it would be more compelling. (I still don't think many/any will take it!)

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      1. Will DiBugno‏ @DCLongIslander 1 Oct 2019
        Replying to @LPDonovan

        Anyone that votes for impeachment in the Senate or House gets a primary challenge. It’s that simple. I don’t think the punditry class understands just how fed up the voters are becoming with this nonsense.

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      2. Rachel Bitecofer  📈 🔭 🍌‏Verified account @RachelBitecofer 1 Oct 2019
        Replying to @LPDonovan

        As I just told an interviewer, unless all Rs move at once, its electoral suicide to move against Trump. But if you're in one of these swing state races, you can not win your seat on just R votes. That's a cold, hard reality they may all have to face.

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      3. B‏ @dmondoak 1 Oct 2019
        Replying to @RachelBitecofer @LPDonovan

        Gardner has already made it clear he has given up on getting re-elected and is now aiming for the sweet post Senate gig. He’s siding with trump.

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      2. Liam Donovan‏Verified account @LPDonovan 1 Oct 2019
        Replying to @flopgrace

        the problem with this conceit is that it assumes that it improves their lie in the general even absent a primary. it's a bet that convicting Trump gets you substantially more Ds than it loses you Rs, which is a big leap. the pro-impeach, pro-GOP sen voter is a rare species.

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      2. Liam Donovan‏Verified account @LPDonovan 1 Oct 2019

        I think that's right

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      2. Reed Galen‏ @reedgalen 1 Oct 2019
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        The ones apt to do it on principle are the ones who won't - because their guiding principle is that Trump is good.

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      3. Liam Donovan‏Verified account @LPDonovan 1 Oct 2019
        Replying to @reedgalen

        I don't think that's the case though. And I think DW-nom is as good a measure of any to give a sense of who isn't wedded to party/convention. Mind you I don't expect anybody to vote to convict, but if they do it'll be from a position of political strength/security, not weakness.

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