A non-positive definite correlation matrix means that the interrelationship of variables in the matrix is not mathematically possible. (It's not unlike a GRIM test showing that a mean is not possible, given n.) It means something's wrong with this data summary. 1/2
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Replying to @Russwarne @jamesheathers
It might be as innocent as using pairwise deletion (where some correlations in the table have a slightly different n due to missing data) or a typo. Regardless of the reason, it shows that the reporting is deficient in some way. 2/2
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Replying to @Russwarne @jamesheathers
Can this be explained by rounding? That is, could the matrix become positive definite if .12 were replaced by .12256, etc? (I've never encountered someone using this technique before; it sounds potentially promising)
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Replying to @sTeamTraen @jamesheathers
Not with SPSS. It program takes rounding into consideration. In my pre-print where I discovered this anomaly, I factor analyzed 99 correlation matrices. 97 were positive definite. If rounding were regularly a problem, then I would have had more than 2 problem datasets.
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Replying to @Russwarne @jamesheathers
Is that necessarily true? I don't know enough about the properties of matrices, but it seems to me that there must be a border, and perhaps only a few are close to it. (Mostly just being devil's advocate here.)
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Replying to @sTeamTraen @jamesheathers
I'm not entirely sure. It might be specific to SPSS. The fact that a 50-variable matrix (from Guthrie, 1963) that was rounded to 2 decimal places worked is a strong indication that the program can handle rounding. (1/2)
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50 variables in a matrix = 1,225 unique matrix cells. The more values there are in a matrix, the harder it is for a matrix to be positive definite if there is a problem with the data. (2/2)
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Replying to @Russwarne @jamesheathers
I guess my question is how many values would need to be changed (and/or by how much) for it to become positive definite. I'm not immediately convinced by the argument that if one 50-item matrix works with rounding, that proves the method is generally robust to rounding.
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Replying to @sTeamTraen @jamesheathers
I'm not sure. It will depend on the number of variables, the strength of the correlations among variables. For example if rAB=0, then rAC and rAB can have any correlation values. But as A & B are more correlated, there are fewer mathematically possible values for rAC & rAB.
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Replying to @Russwarne @jamesheathers
I think this will need input from someone with mathematical expertise before we can be sure that it's a valid forensic technique. But I admire your basic idea.
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I suggest asking Bill Revelle, an expert in psychometrics who's good with matrix algebra.
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