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    1. Tommy Boy‏ @tomterrif 13 Apr 2018
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      The idea that these studies are spurious simply because they don't identify causal pathways is just crackpot. Sure, causal pathways are good. Why not? And it may be that some of the genes identified actually do not have the right sort of causal role. But all? Most? Why?

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    2. Bo Swinegard  👀‏ @Evil_Kirkecraap 13 Apr 2018
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      despite ridiculously high sample sizes.* Believe what you want, I think I have good reasons to believe nothing interesting will come from this method and already commercializing genetic intelligence predictions is an outright scam.

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    3. Imhotep‏ @pp0196 13 Apr 2018
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      https://www.biorxiv.org/content/early/2018/04/11/294876 … He should read this paper. Polygenics scores are highly correlated with geography in the UK. In fact with more sample size we will see more clearly these geographical and migration confounds (prediction of the authors). Prediction additive h2 will..

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    4. Imhotep‏ @pp0196 13 Apr 2018
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      @KirkegaardEmil Your call. I bet 100 euros that the varaince explained by GRS for IQ or educational attainement will be divided by at least 5 in a couple of years when fine scale population structure is taken into account.

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    5. Tommy Boy‏ @tomterrif 13 Apr 2018
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      Look, the paper just came out, without peer review, apparently, and hasn't itself been subjected to criticism. God only knows how much of it will survive the process. Seriously, do you have any argument that these sorts of studies are doomed in general, regardless of the trait?

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    6. Imhotep‏ @pp0196 13 Apr 2018
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      It ain't the first paper that show the same thing. There are published papers and theoretical reasons to expect this problem to be ubiquitous. Naive biological models. Except rare cases of mandelian diseases, partitioning and additive models will fail for most traits.

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    7. Tommy Boy‏ @tomterrif 13 Apr 2018
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      Are you really going to claim that standard quantitative genetics is in general a failure? I mean, if it is, why does it succeed so well in breeding, say, livestock?

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    8. Bo Swinegard  👀‏ @Evil_Kirkecraap 14 Apr 2018
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      As for quantitative genetics being a failure, it's not a settled down issue. But it's been at least a disappointment. Especially the fact that genomic research technology hasn't been able to support the old models like researchers thought it would.

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    9. Tommy Boy‏ @tomterrif 14 Apr 2018
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      Look, if you and other environmentalists have real, and not faked, concerns about these techniques, why not push as hard as you can for the sort of clean admixture study I've described in other tweets here? Why aren't Nisbett, Turkheimer, and Feldman pushing for it? Odd, huh?

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    10. Tommy Boy‏ @tomterrif 14 Apr 2018
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      It is a general rule of human nature that if one wants to know what someone is actually thinking, look to what they do, not what they say. Environmentalists will have nothing to do with admixture tests. What does that imply about what they really believe?

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      Emil O W Kirkegaard‏ @KirkegaardEmil 14 Apr 2018
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      We know this because Charles Murray did in fact try to find environmentalists to do a joint study with Jensen etc. But no one would participate. This was in 2005!

      11:39 AM - 14 Apr 2018
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        2. Imhotep‏ @pp0196 14 Apr 2018
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          Why didn't he do it anyway ? i saw you are trying to do the same stuff with datas of the americas. biobanks give a good opportunity to test this.

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