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    Emil O W Kirkegaard‏ @KirkegaardEmil Mar 30

    Emil O W Kirkegaard Retweeted  🤖 Sonya Mann  🎀

    Actually almost no evidence of this claim. People don't generally mindlessly apply stereotypes. Evidence reviewed in @PsychRabble's 2012 book.https://twitter.com/sonyaellenmann/status/979803764612775936 …

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     🤖 Sonya Mann  🎀Verified account @sonyaellenmann
    The problem with the IQ discourse / recent-uptick-in-mainstream-discussion-of-HBD: People don't understand statistics intuitively. And I mean that in a very specific way: People *will* extrapolate from aggregate population differences to prejudice against individuals.
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      2.  🤖 Sonya Mann  🎀‏Verified account @sonyaellenmann Mar 30
        Replying to @KirkegaardEmil @PsychRabble

        I'm unsure if you're saying something like "vague prejudice doesn't predict specific actions," which I agree with, or "the brain isn't bayesian at all"?

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      3. Emil O W Kirkegaard‏ @KirkegaardEmil Mar 30
        Replying to @sonyaellenmann @PsychRabble

        Evidence shows that people use stereotypes reasonably and indeed they improve accuracy because they are accurate priors.

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      4.  🤖 Sonya Mann  🎀‏Verified account @sonyaellenmann Mar 30
        Replying to @KirkegaardEmil @PsychRabble

        To some extent, but when they get baked into policy it's tricky. E.g. if you preferentially interview men, you hire some amount of subpar men who would have been outperformed by the best of the women candidates

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      5. Emil O W Kirkegaard‏ @KirkegaardEmil Mar 31
        Replying to @sonyaellenmann @PsychRabble

        This scenario happens when the prior is too strong, but research shows that people's stereotypes are generally too weak (ie underestimate true group differences), not too strong.

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      1. Philippe Lemoine‏ @phl43 Mar 30
        Replying to @KirkegaardEmil @PsychRabble

        In fact, it's not even entirely clear from the evidence he reviews that people shouldn't use stereotypes *more*, at least if we only care about accuracy.

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      2. Mitchell Hackett‏ @MHacket1 Mar 30
        Replying to @KirkegaardEmil @PsychRabble

        If anything, people seem to disregard statistics entirely: “I’m afraid of flying so we’re driving there.”

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      1. Wagner's music‏ @Wagnersmusic1 Mar 31
        Replying to @KirkegaardEmil @Biorealism @PsychRabble

        Stereotypes result from observation or education or a combination. Eg without racial quotas, 50% of blacks would earn less than 10,000 per year. Today, one in three black men eventually to prison. Desire to survive=observation-based stereotypes.

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      1.  🎃 💀Sid 💀 🎃‏ @SidPolitics Mar 31
        Replying to @KirkegaardEmil @PsychRabble

        I'd even say it's the exact opposite. "I know a woman who is a math wizard, so it's wrong to say men are statistically better at math!" "There's a black man in my office who is much smarter than I am, therefore there are no differences in scores." "I'm friends with, so..."

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      1. Agene Roflmao‏ @Agene_R Mar 31
        Replying to @GregoryKGraham @KirkegaardEmil @PsychRabble

        Presumably all people who form accurate stereotypes do so on the basis of evidence.

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