6/ Maybe not, but I think Lee and people who defend the "moratorium" idea fail to think through just how totalitarian, how inimical to free speech, such a proposal would actually be. If we can't study the causes of group differences, then we have to shut down A LOT of science.
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7/ For example, let's suppose that I want to know if lead exposure causes a reduction in IQ. My group has thousands of whites and blacks. Blacks score lower on IQ. Some is explained by exposure. But a large gap remains. What do I do with that information?
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8/ Do I bury it? Hide it? Lie about it? What about differences in GRE scores? Am I allowed to talk about the differences but only if I claim that they are environmentally caused? And if so, then how is that much different from Lysenkoism?
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Honestly if your alternative to Lysenkoism is the 'cold winters' hypothesis that is genuinely no better. In fact it's worse because at least Lysenkoism doesn't have the seemingly scientific, evolutionary gloss http://sci-hub.tw/https://doi.org/10.1016/j.paid.2009.05.028 …pic.twitter.com/ElREECssrS
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Why should that be the alternative? (Personally, I've never found this 'Cold winters theory' particularly compelling) But Lysenkoism isn't just about a theory of evolution, it is also political suppression/oppression of alternative theories
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It occurs in animals too. https://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/?p=6472
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I haven't read enough into it to have a firm opinion about it. I'm generally less skeptical of genetic claims, but more skeptical of the evolutionary stories presented to purportedly explain it
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That's fair. But the best we can do is develop reasonable hypotheses that account for the data while predicting new data. It's a difficult task, but the BS-EC hypothesis seems quite reasonable to me. Some variety of selection for culture also.
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All the stuff investigating this in humans makes the same obvious mistakeshttps://twitter.com/Simon_Whitten/status/1135629130639257602 …
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Simon Whitten @Simon_WhittenReplying to @SeveriLuotoHi, can you explain the choice to use contemporary data on economic complexity, IQ etc. for an evolutionary model? Does this not implicitly assume that the current populations of North America and Australia have traits that were selected for these environments?2 replies 1 retweet 6 likes -
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It's also comical the way people use *mean* annual temperature when making claims about evolution during harsh 'cold winters'. It gets below freezing during winter in the Kalahari but has a high mean avg. temperature. Just such a mess
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People have used more than just the means, don't be silly (ranges, winter/summer etc.). The problem is that we don't have enough datapoints to try complex regression models, so people stick with the single most predictive variable, which IIRC is the mean winter temperature.
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We don't have enough datapoints, and the datapoints aren't independent either, which also can be problematic
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Sure, but it's a promising theory. It's probably one of the best in town. I think skepticism is good. But I also think it is a powerful and exciting theory that potentially explains a wide array of data.
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