Altho @jonatanpallesen's critique of Taleb's many specific claims was extremely well-done, I still think much of Taleb's big pic critique of IQ (not his wild "Nazi" accusations at Quillette) are probably justified.
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Replying to @PsychRabble @SkepticReview89 and
I have written elsewhere that IQ is 1 of the most well-validate measures in Psych. But I have written that to expose the hypocrisy in the field. If Fred loves the IAT or RWA or SDO, that's fine, but if he also condemns IQ, it is hard to take his arguments seriously.
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Replying to @PsychRabble @SkepticReview89 and
BUT, if someone (Taleb, eg) says, in effect, "The whole field of Psych is mostly junk" he may be right or wrong, but he's not being disingenuous. I know some people in Science Reform who have similar views.
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Replying to @PsychRabble @SkepticReview89 and
My view is that its not quite *that* bad** but it is bad enough. ** This may reflect my own residual professional bias of wanting to believe Psych needs lots of improvement but is not an all out disaster area.
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Replying to @PsychRabble @SkepticReview89 and
Part of Taleb's critique that I do buy is that IQ/Cog ability tests (SATs, GREs, MCATs) etc select for "school smarts" and schools are gatekeepers of professional success so some of the validity of CogAbility tests reflects this social process.
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Replying to @PsychRabble @SkepticReview89 and
Also, I think domain specific expertise-which will look a lot like intelligence-can be developed at very high levels across a wide range of IQ scores. Bottom line (for me): there is tons of uncertainty about what is going on just w/IQ, despite its (relative) impressive record.
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Replying to @PsychRabble @SkepticReview89 and
Problem 2: Genetics and behavioral genetics. Nearly every biologically-trained geneticist I have interacted with says the whole "heritability" business is mostly or totally bunk. This is not my area, I have no bio training, but this is my limited understanding:
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Replying to @PsychRabble @SkepticReview89 and
Not because results of twin studies etc are "wrong" but because the variance partitioning is wrong. Heritability studies typically separate observable variability (in behavior or physical traits) into a genetic and one or more environmental components.
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Replying to @PsychRabble @SkepticReview89 and
The logic seems really clear. To use a simplified example, if the correlation (w/regard to some trait, say, height, weight, IQ) among monozygotic (identical) twins is higher than that of dizygotic (fraternal) twins, the difference can be used to infer heritability) ala this:pic.twitter.com/ZenOkl94RA
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Replying to @PsychRabble @SkepticReview89 and
The problem is the logic and math ignores gene-environment interactions, which, as I understand it, are incredibly common and very poorly understood. Thus, the equation should be something more like this:pic.twitter.com/eP63kwfnTa
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Where did you get that idea? There's decades of research showing GxE is very difficult to find, and most common claimed instances are publication bias false positives or TINY. Examples: https://twitter.com/KirkegaardEmil/status/884585467894747137 … https://twitter.com/KirkegaardEmil/status/1104932940948144128 …https://twitter.com/KirkegaardEmil/status/1092603463610105856 …
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Replying to @KirkegaardEmil @PsychRabble and
@NSesardic has a great discussion of GxE in the absolutely brilliant Understanding Heritability.3 replies 0 retweets 4 likes -
Replying to @EPoe187 @PsychRabble and
Besides, the animal/plant research Jussim wants to be done on GxE etc., in fact have been done for decades. One can easily find it. It is also in agreement with human literature that non-additive stuff is rare, / small in importance. Example:https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/animal/article/dissecting-total-genetic-variance-into-additive-and-dominance-components-of-purebred-and-crossbred-pig-traits/BFFF0D37C31039CEEF8A79C5340FB2E5 …
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