Yikes, these views are so depressing and stuck in the Dark Ages. Is it possible (I guess it is) that you’ve never heard of the Alliance for Taxpayer Access? Empowering people with access to knowledge and information is valuable. Physicians shouldn’t feel threatened by it!
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Replying to @HMBroughMD @KirkegaardEmil and
I worked in low income East London. Routinely patients bring in print outs. I think you underestimate people. Also, when parents have a sick kid, they often become experts in that condition very quickly. We really want to block access to peer reviewed papers from them?
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Replying to @HMBroughMD @GYamey and
Every data and argument given to him results in a "stuck in dark ages", "yikes", "patronizing", "shocking" etc. Judging from this reaction, open access to technical literature probably won't benefit him much either.
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Replying to @KirkegaardEmil @HMBroughMD and
And yet neither of you have even read the extensive research which Gavin has performed to make a strong case, and we have indicated multiple times, and instead used your personal views to support your arguments. Please end this thread until this changes, or remove me from it.
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Replying to @Protohedgehog @HMBroughMD and
For instance, no evidence that open access helps patients in this document. It's all lefty rights talk. Show me some evidence that medical literature can be understood by patients, and that it helps them, and that this is improved by open access to any substantial degree.pic.twitter.com/KtPhE5RLyD
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Replying to @KirkegaardEmil @Protohedgehog and
Some things are difficult to measure. I know I've used medical papers available on the internet many times. Has anyone polled me about this? No. A lack of evidence is not evidence against, either.
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Replying to @EvolutionistXX @Protohedgehog and
A a start would be to to track public use (citations) of medical literature, contrast the citations of OA sources with CA. If you know normal people, you know that they don't generally read papers. They read newspapers' coverage and science journalism sites.
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Replying to @KirkegaardEmil @Protohedgehog and
Yes, but there is a group in between "normal" people and "people with paid access to medical journals" that includes smart people who aren't doctors but have serious medical problems/children with serious medical problems.
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There is, but it is very small, and these people probably have access thru their network already. Remember how journal access worked before Scihub? I used to email authors for years, or burrow logins to university library. Most smart people can find a way like that.
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Replying to @KirkegaardEmil @Protohedgehog and
Just being explicit and not sarcastic: the parents of chronically ill children have enough shit on their plates to deal with every day without making them jump through *more* hoops to find medical information.
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