@Peter_Turchin @KirkegaardEmil
Do you know of any research on what sort of demographic mixes allow for a trans-ethnic nationalism, or is this possible regardless of the mix, as long as cultural marxists are kept at bay?
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Replying to @dpinsen @MarkSKrikorian and
Never researched this but maybe
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Replying to @KirkegaardEmil @dpinsen and
Haven't really explored this question, though I know that conservatives are more likely than liberals to think that a focus on commonalities is most important for improving race relations (which may or may not be relevant to what you're asking)pic.twitter.com/rvusC0Da0R
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Replying to @ZachG932 @KirkegaardEmil and
It may be relevant. Off the top of my head, a couple of other countries that have aimed for trans-ethnic nationalism: Singapore and South Africa. It seems to be failing in South Africa now.
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Authoritarian communism managed to suppress ethnographic antipathies in Yugoslavia for decades.
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Replying to @KirkegaardEmil @dpinsen and
Israel might be another example where ethnic differences are mostly overcome (among Jews at least) via adherence to a common cultural/religious identity
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Replying to @ZachG932 @KirkegaardEmil and
Until this year, when it explicitly embraced ethnonationalism, Israel arguably took some stabs at trans-ethnic nationalism beyond Jews.
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Replying to @dpinsen @KirkegaardEmil and
By trans-ethnic nationalism I mean trans-ethnic *jewish* nationalism (e.g. Russian, Ethiopean, Yemenite jews etc.). Some (non-jewish) Druze Arabs would also be included, but bringing Palestinians on board is obviously a no-go.
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Replying to @ZachG932 @KirkegaardEmil and
I understood what you meant, but as I said, they made some stabs to go beyond that, starting with this paragraph in their proclamation of independence.pic.twitter.com/2NC75nPr9p
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Also putting an Arab on their Supreme Court, etc. But Israel and Singapore differed from what Mark has in mind by having a pretty clear hierarchy, with the majority ethnic group on top.
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I don't recall any example of a country with 2 about equally split ethnic groups with about equal representation. Usually, one clearly dominates, the smarter one, whether numerically superior or not, e.g. Chinese in South Asian countries and in China/Singapore.
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Replying to @KirkegaardEmil @ZachG932 and
I think that’s true in Thailand, but in Malaysia the ethnic Chinese are suppressed a bit politically. Anyhow I doubt either is an encouraging example for
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They are suppressed yeah, but not very much and they still outperform the majority population. Same for Europeans in various African countries.
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