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    1. Emil O W Kirkegaard‏ @KirkegaardEmil 22 Jul 2018
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      Latest in verbal tilt creationism. https://notpoliticallycorrect.me/2018/07/22/natural-selection-is-not-an-explanatory-mechanism/ …pic.twitter.com/yFpLwWgvGS

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    2. RaceRealist‏ @Race__Realist 22 Jul 2018
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      Where's the flaw in their reasoning?

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    3. Nathan Cofnas‏ @nathancofnas 22 Jul 2018
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      Check out Elliott Sober: http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.153.3890&rep=rep1&type=pdf …

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    4. Emil O W Kirkegaard‏ @KirkegaardEmil 22 Jul 2018
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      Exactly. But why spend time figuring out where the verbal trick is when one can move on to moving science forward? Opportunity cost. Sesardic was correct he he noted that some of the most important work of philosophers is defending science against other philosophers...pic.twitter.com/8BdsAFY2C0

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    5. Nathan Cofnas‏ @nathancofnas 22 Jul 2018
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      Philosophical ideas, including those of Fodor, played an important role in the cognitive revolution and the development of evolutionary psychology. Sometimes philosophy can make a positive contribution to science.

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    6. Nathan Cofnas‏ @nathancofnas 22 Jul 2018
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      Being useful *for scientists* isn't the only way of being useful. The proof of Fermat's last theorem doesn't help solve scientific problems—it's just a feat of logic that's valuable by the standards of mathematics.

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    7. Nathan Cofnas‏ @nathancofnas 22 Jul 2018
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      I think Fodor's argument was dumb and only got attention b/c he was famous—not going to defend this ex of philosophy. But being clear about the logic of scientific theories is a kind of knowledge valuable in itself, that may be only indirectly useful for practicing scientists.

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    8. Nathan Cofnas‏ @nathancofnas 22 Jul 2018
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      There's no "opportunity cost," b/c working scientists can ignore most of this stuff, just like they ignore pure mathematics, while philosophers specialize in these issues. Though sometimes conceptual insights from math or philosophy do have unanticipated relevance for science.

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      Emil O W Kirkegaard‏ @KirkegaardEmil 22 Jul 2018
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      I used to argue this view but now I'm pretty skeptical even about it. What's some cases where philosophers made philosophical input that turned out to be very useful to science? How often does this happen considering the sheer amount of talent in phil depts? Seems like huge waste

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        2. Emil O W Kirkegaard‏ @KirkegaardEmil 23 Jul 2018
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          Re. talent. Philosophers are quite smart, and so their talents could surely be put to some better use than arguing about pointless shit. https://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/?p=3925 pic.twitter.com/yP1k1Uq3zl

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        3. Nathan Cofnas‏ @nathancofnas 23 Jul 2018
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          If I understand you correctly, you're saying that the things philosophers are concerned with are pointless b/c they aren't (directly) useful for science. Do you you think the proof of Fermat's last theorem was useless & Andrew Wiles wasted his talent? Not useful for science.

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        4. Nathan Cofnas‏ @nathancofnas 23 Jul 2018
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          After philosophical issues are resolved and scientists adopt a certain theoretical approach, it's easy to forget the role philosophizing played in advancing science. Two generations of psychologists were behaviorists for philosophical reasons...

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        5. Nathan Cofnas‏ @nathancofnas 23 Jul 2018
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          Behaviorism wasn't defeated so much by new empirical findings as by philosophical arguments about the legitimacy of postulating not-directly-observable cognitive processes.

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        6. Nathan Cofnas‏ @nathancofnas 23 Jul 2018
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          Basic scientific practices that we take for granted now—like the controlled experiment (16th century)—were considered illegitimate when first proposed, and had to be defended by philosophical arguments. Now we've forgotten the controversy, but philosophizing was important.

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        7. Francisco Boni‏ @boni_bo 23 Jul 2018
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          In the same sense, the divide between computationalism and connectionism wasn't dissolved by new empirical findings either, but first by intense philosophizing. Huge breakthroughs were brought by computational power and technology (revival of artificial networks).pic.twitter.com/tXmuIUGokx

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        9. Francisco Boni‏ @boni_bo 23 Jul 2018
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          Philosophy can help science to hold its ground and point to promising directions when things cannot be solved by empirical advancements yet.

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        1. David Pinsen‏ @dpinsen 22 Jul 2018
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          IIRC, some philosophy of mind types have collaborated with scientists on papers in the past, but analytic philosophy often seems like pointless sophistry. A philosophy prof argued that himself a few years ago.https://www.3quarksdaily.com/3quarksdaily/2014/06/philosophy-is-a-bunch-of-empty-ideas-interview-with-peter-unger.html …

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        1. Diego Caleiro - Follow or I'll Tell The PC Babies‏ @diegocaleiro 22 Jul 2018
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          The thirst of Philosophers is unstoppable. You can't prevent them from entering the field with empirical arguments about things as mundane as usefulness

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