do you mean to claim that this is bad for the 'good' countries?
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Replying to @KirkegaardEmil
so cost-free foreign workers is bad for countries in demographic decline? ok lol
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Replying to @YuriyVJ
These people aren't cost free foreign workers. Foreign workers tend to settle, and their kids will be net negatives -- because everybody who is below Danish standards is. Requires a lot of selective immigration to not get this result, and we're not seeing it.
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Replying to @KirkegaardEmil
there virtually does not exist a single report that concludes that EU immigration has been a net negative for denmark, no idea where you're getting this from.
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Replying to @YuriyVJ
I said their children. The first generation is net positive because they grew up at home (i.e. no costs for Denmark in early life). I.e. in the reports, look for "Efterkommere, vestlige" which is mostly EU later gen. E.g. https://www.fm.dk/oekonomi-og-tal/oekonomisk-analyse/2017/indvandreres-nettobidrag-til-offentlige-finanser …pic.twitter.com/0srfIcstAd
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Replying to @KirkegaardEmil @YuriyVJ
EU, øst (east) is obviously below Danish mean. But in any case, one does not need these actual numbers to make the predictions because we know that immigrant outcomes are easy to predict from home country well-doing.pic.twitter.com/IAWUKSeQpW
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Replying to @KirkegaardEmil
the report you linked yourself states that 1) eu immigrants are a massive plus for society. 2) when you corrigate for the young age of the descendants of EU immigrants they become a positive contributing factor as well. being 1:1 with natives after one gen is a weird expectationpic.twitter.com/xwoDmKrfEA
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Replying to @YuriyVJ
(1): first generation, not later generations. (2). No, Table 3.1 is for all western later generations, not EU specifically. For EU specifically, look at Figure 3.11. It shows EU and East EU later generations are net negative relative to whole population.
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Replying to @KirkegaardEmil
the text to 3.11 literally states that while not as beneficial to tax income as native and western eu citizens, eastern eu is still net positive.pic.twitter.com/jSzvGchKtg
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No, they are talking about the line being above 0 in the working age population (erhvervsaktive alder). The life-time contribution of this group is obviously below that of the general population, and thus even more below that of Danes.
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Replying to @KirkegaardEmil
You're concluding that solely based off the graph, which is based on a extrapolation, from what I can tell, given that second gen Eastern European immigrants are barely in their teens, at best, as if this year. Not to even mention pensionists.
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Replying to @YuriyVJ @KirkegaardEmil
One could look at Sweden or the UK to check, however, given that they didn't restrict Eastern immigration in 2004. Sweden is a better comparison to the danish welfare state, whereas the UK has a larger sample size.
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