So, you say you don't have to be a member of the Roman Catholic Church to be saved, but you also say if you are saved it's through the Roman Catholic Church? You were right that you don't have to be a member of the Roman Catholic Church to be saved. We are saved through Christ.
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Replying to @paulr140 @AliqueMalakian and
You cannot separate God and His Catholic Church. You can't be part of the Body of Christ and also be separated from the Church, because the Church IS the Body.
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Replying to @FergusFSU @AliqueMalakian and
But you just acknowledged that you don't have to be a member of the Roman Catholic Church to be saved. You agree that we are saved through Christ, right?
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Replying to @paulr140 @AliqueMalakian and
Yes, saved by Christ through His Church. Those at their death who are invincibly ignorant of Christ and His Catholic Church, MAY be saved. If they are, it's still through the Catholic Church
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Replying to @FergusFSU @AliqueMalakian and
"Church" refers to all true believers in Christ. The Church is the saved, the Church does not save. Christ saves.
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Replying to @paulr140 @AliqueMalakian and
Your first sentence is nothing more than your fallible opinion. And it doesn't fit with Scripture. Jesus couldn't possibly have meant for us to take our brother to "all true believers in Christ". That's stupid and logically impossible
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Replying to @FergusFSU @AliqueMalakian and
If you're referring to Matthew 18, church is with a lower case 'c', the visible church. You, however, keep referring to "Church", capitalized c, which us all true believers. There's a difference. The Church doesn't save, Christ does.
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Replying to @paulr140 @AliqueMalakian and
No, there's no difference. Scripture doesn't say there's a difference. That's just your man made tradition
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Replying to @FergusFSU @AliqueMalakian and
No. Your claim that Church can only mean Roman Catholic Church - and no one else who believes in Christ who saves - is your man made idea and isn't Scriptural.
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Replying to @paulr140 @AliqueMalakian and
Well so we disagree, let's obey Jesus and take this matter to His Church. Just like the question of circumcision, the Church can decide which view is correct. Are you willing to obey Jesus and listen to His Church?
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"Beware the circumcision" Philippians 3:2 "if you let yourselves be circumcised, Christ will be of no value to you at all." - Galatians 5:2 If your christian church promotes circumcision, find a new fucking church because they have "been alienated from christ" Galatians 5:4
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