So, again, to clarify, you operationalize rape solely by whether the perpetrator derives sexual pleasure from it, correct? To you, no instance of assault to one's genitals for other motivations--humiliation, punishment, sadism, etc.--are unequivocally not rape, right?
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Didn't say that but go off I guess lol
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Then clarify your position. Sure seems to me that you're not only dismissing entire classes of rape victims, but, even more disgustingly, you're literally operationalizing rape solely by the feelings of the perpetrator rather than the feelings of the victim. How patriarchal.
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Well like. Rape is largely based on the feelings of the perpetrator. It's about intent. And with Circumcision, the intent is not malicious
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I don't think the intent of the rapist matters one bit to the victim. If someone raped you not because they enjoyed it but because they think god told them to, would you say "oh well that's okay then" ?
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That person has malicious intent hombre it's simple algebra
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If they truly believe they're doing it for a good reason, then they don't have malicious intent, so, according to your asinine definition, it wouldn't be rape. This is why your position is stupid and hypocritical.
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Well it's also penetration for sexual pleasure. Rape.
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Then if a circumcision doctor takes pleasure in it, they're a rapist. They exist. I was molested by one. Here's one of the old news articles about him. https://web.archive.org/web/20110114010515/http://www.thespec.com/news/crime/article/320682--34-more-sex-charges-against-pediatrician … He demanded everyone, even nurses, leave the room when he did circumcisions. Wonder why.
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Yeah he got pleasure that's rape! You're gettin there big guy!
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Okay so you're admitting that circumcision -can be- rape, and the only thing in your mind that ever makes it NOT rape is that the doctor doesn't have an erection. That's a silly line to draw, imo, but at least we're making progress
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